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8-year-olds placed in Cage Fights

  1. Sep 24, 2011 #1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7fCtYTUAf8

    Skip to 0:51, look at the tone of that kid, he obviously LOVES violence thanks to his moronic father.

    It's fun

    IN other words, "I like to beat people up and people weaker than me!"
     
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  3. Sep 24, 2011 #2
    How is this legal?
     
  4. Sep 24, 2011 #3
    You were able to get that much insight about the kid just from him saying "fun"?
    Amazing.

    So if one kid likes playing chess he must enjoy dominating stupid people.
     
  5. Sep 24, 2011 #4
    No law to make it illegal.

    Wrestling, peewee football, peewee lacrosse, and peewee boxing (more dangerous than that) are all legal, so I don't know what the fuss is about. You think that is disgusting just compare boxing and UFC statistics.
     
  6. Sep 24, 2011 #5
    Why should martial arts be illegal?
     
  7. Sep 24, 2011 #6
    meh. just a couple of kids grappling. you guys didn't do this when you were kids?
     
  8. Sep 24, 2011 #7
    Gathering crowd and make kids fight each other...
    I would never allow this to happen in my country.

    Jack, you call cage fighting martial arts?
     
  9. Sep 24, 2011 #8
    because martial arts isn't just about violence, it's an art. This is just pure violence.
     
  10. Sep 24, 2011 #9
    I am 100% in support of this. It's called mixed martial arts. No different than participating in any other sport.

    Ha! How would you know? These kids have probably been working hard and practicing. Just because you don't have the trained eye to see it as an art, doesn't mean it isn't.
     
  11. Sep 24, 2011 #10
    Those kids aren't just wailing on one another, you can clearly see wrestling, and a mixture of martial art-based styles being incorporated into their fighting. Also they aren't being "made" to fight, rather they decided to do that on their own, similar to a kid knocking another kids skull out of his head (exaggeration) in boxing and is noted as being more dangerous than what those kids are doing.
     
  12. Sep 24, 2011 #11
    At what age do boxers start serious training?


    Maybe, does anyone have back drop on the training? Are they taking traditional karate or judo? Martial arts must contain mental and spiritual development.

    fyi, looking at the video it does appear it is just wresting/grappling. But once kicks and punches are involved I think it draws the line, especially if it's without proper padding and money is involved.
     
  13. Sep 24, 2011 #12
    I think you are naive if you think that dad didn't have a major influence. Indoctrination is prevalent in ages younger than 14 when full consciousness is not yet developed.
     
  14. Sep 24, 2011 #13
    Influence is different from being made.
     
  15. Sep 24, 2011 #14
    You're right, he isn't a slave, but at that age in the right environment there is little difference. Do you support those very young girls in beauty pageants?
     
  16. Sep 24, 2011 #15
    Go to 0:28 to 0:30

    That kid just kick the other kid's face while they were on ground.
     
  17. Sep 24, 2011 #16

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    If they gave them guns and/or knives, I'd pay to watch.

    I'm a big fan of Darwinianism.

    Tommy; "Hi Joey. These blokes talked us into gettin' in here and killin' each other. I'd kind of like to grow up to be a teacher or somethin'. What'ya say we point the guns at the audience, and start shootin'"

    Joey; "Sounds good to me."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDTZ7iX4vTQ

    All the other kids with the pumped up kicks
    You'd better run, better run, faster than my bullet


    Sure. Me and my 4 brothers beat the crap out of each other when we were that age.

    Then we grew up.

    hmmm.... I even liked watching boxing for a while, until I watched the Mancini vs KIM fight.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThQFPJpVtK8

    That was my second thought, boss. Thank you.
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2011
  18. Sep 24, 2011 #17
    Everyone is influenced by people at young ages. But a beauty pageant for kids winning a contest is to be demonized and a spelling bee isn't?
     
  19. Sep 24, 2011 #18

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    Not that I condone this, but ...

    Apparently, six.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFeElpXyvbg

    Nope. Make that five.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_1KfvOYVi0

    Nope. Make that four!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iUl7m_Kli0

    Nope. Three!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLmIBebss6g

    Two!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC5vuniPXuU


    Different cultures. We supposedly civilized peoples push our kids, too.
     
  20. Sep 24, 2011 #19
    The same argument that you guys are making goes for ANY child in ANY sport. Yes, the parents have major influence, but there is no getting around that. For every child that wishes their parents didn't push them into things, there is a teenager or adult who wishes their parents had pushed them more.

    There is absolutely nothing saying martial arts need spiritual development. That's something you see in movies. A great many martial arts, even aside from MMA, lack the whole 'spiritual development' thing.

    Look, this happens with every sport. If you've never practiced both a striking and grappling martial art...of course you are not going to appreciate the intricacies of it and appreciate the work that goes into becoming great at it.
     
  21. Sep 24, 2011 #20
    Sure, but the question is whether it is a positive or negative influence. Spelling Bee will at least improve mental development. Taking hits to your body doesn't. However I agree that there are abuses in there too.

    Pushing your child into a fighting sport without moral guidance is a mistake in my book. There is a big difference in basketball or piano to boxing. One increases mental fitness, the other increases brain damage.

    Then it is not a martial art, it is just fighting. The art implies mental development through it's cultural philosophy.

    I took Tae-Kwon-Do for three years and although it was a complete joke, at least the master did teach me Korean culture and the philosophy behind the moves. He also taught martial arts are for self defense only and we sparred using proper gear.
     
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