# A confusing energy question

A child of mass 26kg is travelling at 4.0ms at the bottom of the slide which is 2m vertically below the top. The length of the slide is 6m.
Calculate

i) The energy used in overcoming the friction during the child's descent

ii) The magnitude of the frictional force.

Totally confused about this question. I know Work done = Force.displacement in the direction of the force but then does this mean that question i) is equal to W=26(9.8)Cos19.47?

I have no idea. Would appreciate any help.

thank you

## Answers and Replies

Doc Al
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Assume the child started at the top with zero speed. What's the total energy at the top? At the bottom?

At the top would be the potential energy so 26*9.8*2, but this would be the energy output (I think). That's not really what i) is asking. At the bottom would also be the same but in kinetic energy form.

Doc Al
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At the bottom would also be the same but in kinetic energy form.
Why don't you check and see? They give you the speed. (The energy would only be the same if there were no losses to friction.)

OK, so at the bottom of the slide E=.5(26)(4)^2 but I'm still confused. The length of the slide has 2 components? is the horizontal component the frictional component? I have no clue.

Potential energy only deals with vertical displacement. You need the length of the slide for the second part of the question

I know it only deals with vertical displacement but in this context the energy that requires him to get from the top to the bottom (neglecting the slide) would be mgh, but this alone does not help me solve the equation.

Doc Al
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OK, so at the bottom of the slide E=.5(26)(4)^2 but I'm still confused.
Good. How does that compare to the energy it started with at the top?

The problem deals with conservation of energy. Etop=Ebottom. Without friction, PEtop=KEbottom, but thats not what you have here.

At the top PE=mgh=26*9.8*2=509.6J and at the bottom KE=.5*26*4^2=208J. Energy is greater at the top than at the bottom.

Doc Al
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OK, so what's the answer to the first question?

The difference between them? but if it is that, what I calculated is not energy "used" but more wasted.

Doc Al
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The difference between them? but if it is that, what I calculated is not energy "used" but more wasted.
That depends on your point of view: You "used" it to overcome friction.