Designing an Efficient Number System: What Factors Should Be Considered?

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In summary, the group discusses the characteristics of a good number system, including a higher base than 10 with easy-to-write digits, a placeholder for zero, simplicity in notation, and possibly a way to indicate exponentiation. Suggestions for bases include 20, 12, 8, 60, and 840, with varying advantages. The conversation also touches on the relationship between base systems and human anatomy, with some humorous comments about cartoon characters.
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Suppose you're to make a new number system. A good number system should have what? What do you think?

- Should be based on higher base than 10, for example 20 - less digits to write.

- its digits should be as easy as possible to write.

- what else?
 
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easy to learn should be one of the most important criterias ;)
 
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In order to simplify arithmetic and to only have a small set of numerals...place value is absolutely essential.

We would also need a placeholder of types for nothingness, so a "zero" is needed.

The numerals shouldn't be that difficult to write...or maybe one or two really difficult ones that mean like 1 trillion or something just to screw with people.

But keeping it simple as in lines and curves/loops as in our system is key.

By the way, if we have a base 20 system, wouldn't we have to think of more digits? We'd need a digit from everything from 0-19.

Or do you mean big numbers could be expressed with less digits?

One last thing I could think of would be maybe a simple manner to indicate exponentiation, so you have easy access to factors of the base and could probably reduce notation a bit and thus arithmetic a bit.

Maybe like a dot, or a dash, or some cool thing on top of a number for it's first two base factors.

And now all of this crazy number system talk has made me hungry...so I'm done rambling. But, try to come up with one. I've thought about this many times before but never followed it through.
 
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If you're just talking about base systems, then having a base n system where n has a lot of prime factors would be better. Base 10 is slightly clumsy due to it's factors being 2 and 5. Base 8 or Base 12 would be much nicer. Base 60 would be even better but that's be somewhat over the top in symbols required.

Base 12 would mean that loads more fractions would have nice decimal representations. Like 0.3 would be 1/4 and 0.4 would be 1/3. I think those benefits would outweight having a base 20 system so you could write numbers in a shorter way. Base 20 offers no advantages over base 10 in terms of decimal expansions.
 
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How about base 840? Every natural number less than 9 goes into 840 evenly. Just use the first 840 kanji in the Japanese writing system for each numeral :biggrin: There are 1,945 official kanji, so there's plenty of room for more numerals if you want :tongue: Oh, that's too many distinct numerals? Well, base 60 doesn't seem so bad now, does it?
 
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my vote is for base 12, because of its many prime factors. And who said SI is better US, 12 is a great number!
 
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Base 10 is very good because it is nicely related to the number of fingers we've got. :smile:
 
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Base 10 is very good because it is nicely related to the number of fingers we've got. :smile:

But what about people who live in cartoons? They only have eight fingers. :uhh:
 
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But what about people who live in cartoons? They only have eight fingers. :uhh:
That's why they never managed to develop a number system. :approve:
 

What is a good number system?

A good number system is a set of symbols and rules used to represent and manipulate numbers. It allows us to perform mathematical operations, compare quantities, and organize data.

What makes a number system "good"?

A good number system should be efficient, accurate, and consistent. It should be able to represent all numbers, including fractions and decimals. It should also follow a logical set of rules for performing operations and converting between different units of measurement.

Why do we need a good number system?

A good number system is essential for a wide range of applications, from simple arithmetic calculations to complex scientific equations. It allows us to accurately quantify and measure quantities, as well as analyze data and make informed decisions based on numerical information.

What are some examples of good number systems?

The most commonly used number system is the decimal system, which is based on the digits 0-9 and uses place value to represent numbers. Other examples include the binary system used in computers, the Roman numeral system, and the Mayan number system.

Can a number system be "perfect"?

It is impossible for a number system to be perfect, as it is a human-created concept and will always have some limitations. However, through advancements in mathematics and technology, we continue to improve and refine our number systems to make them more efficient and accurate.

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