A person takes a trip: Find the time spent on the trip, etc.

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The problem involves calculating the time spent on a trip and the distance traveled by a person driving at a constant speed, with a specified average speed and a rest stop included in the scenario. The context is rooted in kinematics, specifically dealing with average speed and time-distance relationships.

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  • Participants discuss the inclusion of the rest stop in the total time calculation and question the division of the trip into segments. Some suggest that the average speed formula should account for the rest time, while others propose a system of equations to relate distance and driving time.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing corrections and alternative perspectives on the calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the approach to the problem, but there is no explicit consensus on the method to be used.

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There are indications of potential rounding errors in calculations, and participants are exploring different interpretations of how to incorporate the rest stop into the overall time and distance equations.

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A person takes a trip, driving with a constant of 89.5 Km/h, except for a 22.0-min rest stop.
If the person's average speed is 77.8 Km/h,
(a) how much time is spent on the trip and
(b) how far does the person travel?

This is problem 13, Chapter 2 from Serway Physics for scientists and engineers Volume 1 9th edition

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Is my solution correct?
 

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When you wrote $$V_{avg} = {89.5 t_{a \to b} + 89.5 t_{b \to c} \over t_{a \to b} + t_{b \to c} + t_{rest}}$$, that was correct but I think they mean to include the rest stop in the time taken.
 
I disagree with your numbers. It makes no sense to to split the time interval into 3 parts because it doesn't matter when the driver rests. For all you know, the driver can start 22.0 min late and have no rest stop and it wouldn't make a difference to the average speed and the distance traveled. The average speed is $$v_{avg}=\frac{D}{t_{rest}+t_{drive}}$$where ##D## is the total distance traveled. You also have a second equation relating ##D## and ##t_{drive}##. The two equations comprise a system of two equations and two unknowns, ##D## and ##t_{drive}##, that you have to solve.
 
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Yes, your solution is correct with the small correction that 77.8 * (22/60) = 28.53 not 28.008. That’s just some sort of round off error, but I can’t spot where or why it is so big.

I think you could do this much more succinctly effectively jumping right to the middle of your calculation by appropriate logic. What you arrive at third line from the bottom of part a:

(tdrive+ 22 min) * vavg = tdrive * vdrive

seems readily apparent and could easily have been written as the starting point of the solution.
 
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@kuruman :
thanks. The following is written according to your suggestion. Does it seem ok?

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Your numbers agree with mine.
 
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