A question of Planetary formation.

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My question pertains to atmosphere. Forgive me if it sounds stupid, or obvious, but I just don't know how atmospheres come about. I understand how planetoids and planets are formed, but when/how does it get an atmosphere?

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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i'm sure there are many others who could answer your question with more insight, but they don't seem to be doing that so i'll give it a go:
i've always thought that most of the atmosphere that a planet has is created by chemical reactions that take place on the surface. for example, venus has a high *some sort of volital gas that i forgot* which i think is produced by the volcanic reactions. somebody help me out here!!
 
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Anybody care to elaborate on maximus' point? Anyone care to present their own idea? Perhaps a site? Anything?
 

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Greetings !

In a planet the size of the Earth most of the heavy
ellements sink and the light elements remain close to the
surface. The energy of the Sun heats these ellements creating
an atmosphere. If the planet has little gravity then the
atmosphere - the gas can not remain trapped by the low
gravity but the Earth, for example, has sufficient mass
to hold its atmosphere.

Live long and prosper.
 

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We have only recently come to realise the importance of vulcanism in the formation of an atmosphere. It is this process which puts gasses back into the atmosphere. For example, Mars has a significant gravitational field when compared to Earth's, but its atmosphere is so thin compared to ours as to be virtually non-existant. Both planets slowly lose atmosphere to space, but Earth still has active vulcanoes, which Mars lacks. This, according to current thinking is what makes our two worlds' atmospheres so different.
 

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Contrary to LURCH, I think that has more to do with earth's magnetic field. Earth unlike mars has a strong magnetic field due to rotating currents in the core. This deflects charged particles from the sun, and so protects our atmosphere. Mars being colder does not have a liquid rotating core, and so is unprotected from such radiation, with it's atmosphere more or less "blown away" in the solar wind.
I may be wrong, though.
 
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Couldn't it be all three of those factors (weak gravitation, strong electromagnetism, and active vulcano activity)? I really have no clue, but it seemed like all of these things could be factors in the presence of Earth's atmosphere.
 
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I'm not so sure about the magnetic field. Venus has a weak magnetic field with a dense atmosphere.
 

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Weak gravity means LESS atmosphere, not more. The gravity has to be strong enough to keep the gases from escaping.
 
Part of the reason is vulcanism, another part here on Earth is life forms called blue green algae.
(Stramatolites if I recall it correctly, funny, cause I just looked at them yesterday in the Queensu geological museum)

In Australia there are still some of these plant forms existing, they are thought to be one of the primary causes of the oxygen atmosphere that is present on earth, as they took the carbon 'oxides' and converted them, in biological processes, to oxygen.

Some of the gases would have been a product of the cooling of the rocks, that occured, when the planet formed.
 

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All the factors mentioned do add to forming an atmosphere. Holding on to the atmosphere is mainly a function of gravity, and least important mentioned so far is a magnetic field, or lack of one.

But, in all planetary sources I see regarding atmospheres, there is one predominant factor I don't see mentioned yet. This would mainly be in the early stages of a solar system's formation, and would be the bombardment of the planets by "cometary material", especially when the forming system had not yet been "swept clean" by the planets, and this material was slamming us on a regular basis. A lot of the experts believe that the predominant portion of platetary atmospheres came from bombardment of gas-rich comets. Our Gas-Giant planets formed from primordial gasses, but have also been enhanced/changed by accumulation of protoplanetary material.
 
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Thanks for the responses. I was always really interested in planetary formation, but I never really questioned the origin of atmosphere before.
 
It is a good question, and I went back to the museum and found I have mispelled "Str-O-matolite", pardon.

Also they mention the gassing that arises from Volcanic activety Carbon Dioxide, Methane, and Amomonia.

I would agree with the Comet'ary idea as well, makes eminent sense.


EDIT mislpelled mispelled (SP?)
 
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Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
It is a good question, and I went back to the museum and found I have mispelled "Str-O-matolite", pardon.

Also they mention the gassing that arises from Volcanic activety Carbon Dioxide, Methane, and Amomonia.

I would agree with the Comet'ary idea as well, makes eminent sense.


EDIT mislpelled mispelled (SP?)
Actually it's "misspelled" or "misspelt".
 

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