Solving the "Rainy Problem": Who Gets Wetter?

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In summary, the question poses the scenario of two people, one on a bicycle moving at a constant speed of 10 Km/hr and the other on a bike moving at 20 Km/hr, traveling the same distance in a straight path while it is raining at a constant rate. The question asks which person will get more wet. The solution presented argues that since the number of raindrops hitting a person is a function of time, and both persons are moving for the same amount of time, they will both get wet to the same extent. However, this conclusion is challenged by the fact that the person on the faster bike will sweep the same volume in less time, resulting in a higher rate of getting wet. The question remains open for discussion.
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Homework Statement


Suppose it is raining at a constant rate (at any instant the number of raindrops in a given volume of space will be constant) . there is no wind and rain falls vertically. two persons of same size (height, stoutness etc) set out to travel a fixed distance say d meters in a straight path one on a bicycle moving at const. speed of 10 Km/hr and other on a bike moving with 20 Km/hr. who gets more wet?
N.B : they travel WITHOUT stopping.


Homework Equations


distance/time = speed.
volume swept during journey = surface area x speed

The Attempt at a Solution


when a person moves in space the raindrops hitting him are those which should have been present in the space which he occupies at that particular instant. suppose that the person is photographed at a particular instant, the raindrops which hit him at that instant are those which were present in tthe volume he occupies in that instant. since he is in a state of continuous motion the drops on, beside before, or behind him do not affect him.
also since rain falls at a constant rate the number of raindrops striking a person during his journey should then equal the volume swept by him x no. of rain drops per unit volume.
since both are of the same size and move same distances the volumes swept are equal.
then it leads to the conclusion thar both are wetted to the same extent.
this conclusion seems to oppose common sense, for we run to our destinations rather than walking when it rains - but in both cases we are wetted to the same extent!
hence I doubt the validity of the arguement.
please think about this problem and state your views about it. if my views are incorrect I'd be thankful to know the correct answer and the argument which will leads to it.
 
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the flaw in your argument is that you have not considdered time at all. Rememeber that the number of raindrops falling on a person is a function of time. This means that the only factor determining how wet a person is going to get if rate of rainfall is the same is time.
 
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the rate of rainfall is same in the ground frame of reference... but a fast moving person sweeps the same volume... may be in lesser time, but the number of rain drops he hits in the interim period is the drops whose space he occupied during his journey - which is completely independent of time. i still feel it depends only on the distance.
the following picturization may be helpful in correctly understanding my argument -
since the number of rain drops is same in a given volume of space at any instant - let us look at the rain and FREEZE our view at an instant. the rain drops now hang at their respective places without falling ( both the systems are similar - the number of drops is still the same in any given volume). Now send the motorcyclist - he hits all the drops located in the volume his body sweeps. there are no drops behind him - but in the original model the drops reappeared due to continuity of the rain. but that is irrelevant to the motorcyclist or how wet he gets. the number of drops hitting him now appears to be ONLY a function of the volume he sweeps - which is dependent in turn on the distance and his dimensions - NOT on time! thus the cyclist whould be wet to the same degree!
may be this argument is more clear... please express your views .
 
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If he stands still he will collect the same amount of raindrops on his vertical cross section as when he is moving. If he stands still he will collect no raindrops on his horizontal cross section. If he is moving he will. He is wetter if he moves.
 
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both move in this case - who gets more wet? even though the rate of getting wet is more in case of motor cyclist os more he spends lesser time in rain and the cyclist spends more time in rain though the rate of getting wet is less. hence the argument that both get wet to the same extent seems more probable. time does not seem to play any role here.
 
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http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_395.html
 

1. What is the "Rainy Problem"?

The "Rainy Problem" refers to a hypothetical scenario in which two people are caught in the rain and try to determine who will get wetter.

2. How do you solve the "Rainy Problem"?

The "Rainy Problem" can be solved using mathematical equations, taking into account factors such as the rate of rainfall, the surface area of the individuals, and their speed of movement.

3. Who is more likely to get wetter in the "Rainy Problem"?

In general, the person with a larger surface area and slower movement will be more likely to get wetter in the "Rainy Problem". However, other factors such as the direction of the wind and the shape of the objects can also play a role.

4. Can the "Rainy Problem" be applied to real-life situations?

While the "Rainy Problem" is a simplified scenario, it can be applied to real-life situations where two or more objects are exposed to rain or other forms of precipitation. However, the variables may differ and the exact outcome may not always be predictable.

5. What are the practical applications of solving the "Rainy Problem"?

Understanding the dynamics of the "Rainy Problem" can be useful in various fields such as urban planning, transportation engineering, and weather forecasting. It can also help individuals make informed decisions on how to protect themselves from rain.

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