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A roller coaster car question

  1. Dec 29, 2011 #1
    Hello

    I have a problem with this exam question does anyone now the solution.

    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data


    A roller coaster car has a mass of 800 kg.
    The gravitational field strength is 10 N/kg.
    It takes 20 s for the car to reach K from the start.
    What is the average power required to raise the car to K in this time?
    [Ignore frictional forces]
     
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  3. Dec 29, 2011 #2
    Do you have any other data because i believe you would need an angle.
     
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  4. Dec 29, 2011 #3
    Remember that: c6f4fcdcefb75e1417669dfbc912d208.png
     
  5. Dec 29, 2011 #4

    BruceW

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    Think about the energy of the system. What are the possible forms of energy in this situation (and what equations do you know for them?)
     
  6. Dec 29, 2011 #5
    Simply just use:


    [tex]P_{avg}=\frac{\Delta W_{w}}{\Delta t}[/tex]

    and in your case the only work applied on the roller coaster is its weight so you will have:

    [tex]P_{avg}=\frac{W_{w}}{\Delta t}[/tex]

    Ps: [tex]W_{w}=mgh[/tex]
     
  7. Dec 29, 2011 #6
    Find the gravitational potention energy first
    peg=mgh=800x10x20=160000
    peg equals to kinect energy at the start because it stops at k
    so kinect energy =1/2mvi^2
    1/2(800)vi^2=160000
    400vi^2=160000
    vi= square root of 400
    vi=20m/s

    power=mv=(800)(20)=16000w
     
  8. Dec 29, 2011 #7

    BruceW

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    Too much help from you guys. Especially jfxue! The idea of the homework section is to tell the person if they got something wrong or correct and to guide the person by asking them the kinds of questions which will get them thinking in the right direction.
     
  9. Dec 29, 2011 #8
    But you can't say it equals the kinetic energy at the start even though Em(i)=Em(k).

    He doesn't have to go looking for all of that stuff. All he has to do is find the work from the start to K then use it to find the average power.
     
  10. Dec 29, 2011 #9
    thats not alot of stuff what you mean finding the work from the start how can u find the work from the start without knowing the vi or distance. my way isnt even long
     
  11. Dec 29, 2011 #10

    BruceW

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    jfxue, I think you've read the question wrong. The car gains GPE due to an electric motor. The question is asking for the work done, so in fact, we must assume the initial KE is zero. (Or account for the KE in our calculation of the power, but that just makes it unnecessarily complicated).

    Edit: I didn't explain very well. I'm just trying to say that the question is about the work required to get the car up the hill. This work is done by a motor, but that doesn't even matter really, since we are simply trying to find the average power over the time specified, as mtayab has said.
     
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