Why are two methods for evaluating an integral giving different results?

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving finding the moment of inertia and evaluating an integral using two different methods. The first method involves a u-substitution and results in a divergent integral, while the second method involves a trig-substitution and yields a correct answer. The conversation also mentions a mistake made in the first method.
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bjgawp
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I have a problem which involves finding the moment of inertia which involves evaluating: [tex]\int_0^1 x^2 \left(\frac{\pi}{2} - \sin^{-1} x\right)dx[/tex]

Now eventually, we end up having to evaluate the integral through integration by parts: [tex]\int_0^1 \frac{x^3}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} \ dx[/tex]

Now this is really an improper integral with the problem at [tex] x= 1[/tex] so we really have: [tex]\lim_{t \to 1^-} \int_0^t \frac{x^3}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} dx[/tex]

Now the problem that has occurred to me is that I'm getting two different results through two different methods.

Method 1: A u-substitution

Let: [tex]u = \sqrt{1-x^2} \ \Rightarrow \ - u du = x dx[/tex]

[tex]x = 0 \ \Rightarrow \ u = 1[/tex], and [tex]x \to 1 \ \Rightarrow \ u \to 0[/tex]

So we have the new integral: [tex]\lim_{s \to 0^+} \int_s^1 \frac{1-u^2}{u} \ du = \lim_{s \to 0^+} \left(\ln u - \frac{u^2}{2}\right) \Bigg|_s^1[/tex]

which diverges.

Method 2: A trig-sub

Let: [tex]x = \sin \theta \ \Rightarrow \ dx = \cos \theta d \theta[/tex]

So, the integral becomes: [tex]\lim_{s \to \frac{\pi}{2}} \int_0^s \sin^3 \theta d \theta[/tex]

but this is no longer improper and we do get a result.

So what's going on here? If we do the trig-sub, we get the correct answer to the original inertia question but if we look at the function [tex]f(x) = \frac{x^3}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}[/tex], it should diverge!
 
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bjgawp said:
[tex]-{ \color{red}{u} }du = x dx[/tex]
It's hard to know without seeing your arithmetic, but I think you dropped the factor in red.
 
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Oh whoops! Wow what a silly mistake. Thanks!
 

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A definite integral is a mathematical concept that represents the area under a curve on a graph. It is a way to calculate the total amount of something, such as distance or volume, by dividing it into infinitely small parts and adding them up.

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