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A you a genius?

  1. Jun 30, 2007 #1
    ARE you a genius*** :- )

    What do you think gives a person special mental abilities? (IQ of 149+) Is it all genetics or just your environment, or a combination of the two? Do you think the IQ test really measures your mental ability? Or is there other factors that the IQ test doesn't take into consideration such as creativity and so on.

    OR maybe genius is just a state of mind that we all can achieve.
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  3. Jun 30, 2007 #2
    Genius is the ability to elude innate human stupidity, at least in my opinion.
  4. Jun 30, 2007 #3


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    Good analogy. Creativity and imagination can trump craftsmanship and the "grind" of the trails fostered by a lack of epistemology.
  5. Jun 30, 2007 #4
    I like to think that. I have an outsanding memory. Learn advanced mathematics on my own. I can pass my exams in 1/3 the given time.
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    IQ tests are inaccurate.
    I like Werg22's definition of genius. And last time I checked, finishing [and passing] an exam in less than half the time is not grounds for being a genius.
  7. Jun 30, 2007 #6
    first sign you're not a genius? thinking you're a genius
  8. Jun 30, 2007 #7
    I don't know about this. Some true geniuses are very well conscious that they are geniuses.
  9. Jun 30, 2007 #8
    History has it that Gauss was a little of a show off. He was proud to have been the greatest mathematician of his time. I am well sure that he knew he was the genius par excellence.

    Same thing with Galois.

    Just because a quotation sounds nice does not mean it is correct (adapted from Voltaire).
  10. Jun 30, 2007 #9
    But Galois died at 20 in a duel fight because he probably was too confident.
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    Being a show off does not mean that you think you're a genius, it just means you're arrogant. However, there's nothing wrong with a bit of arrogance in my opinion.
  12. Jun 30, 2007 #11
    Who cares if you are a genius or not if you do not use your talents for the betterment of mankind.
    Being smart doesn't really differentiate you from anyone else. In my personal experience, achievement isn't obtained from being smarter than everyone else. It is obtained through determination and perseverance.
    Genius is a state of mind we can all achieve.
  13. Jun 30, 2007 #12
    It almost takes one to know one. How often have you heard someone say "so and so is a genius", about someone who is simply educated or slightly smarter than average? It happens quite often.
  14. Jul 1, 2007 #13
    Well... I can draw a perfect circle with just a pencil, if that counts for anything. =P
  15. Jul 1, 2007 #14
    there are many things wrong with being arrogant, not the least of which is that there will always be someone who you should be humbled by.
  16. Jul 1, 2007 #15

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    Perhaps more aptly: "...telling others that you're a genius."

    If you have genius, it will show. If you have to tell other people that you are a genius, then it's not showing.
  17. Jul 1, 2007 #16

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    Cool - you should go up against this guy:
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    Geniuses eat cold food and wear slip on shoes:tongue2:
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  20. Jul 1, 2007 #19
    lmao that's hilarious. i can't believe people take that seriously.:rofl:
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  21. Jul 1, 2007 #20
    I wonder how the judge this freehand circle competition.
  22. Jul 1, 2007 #21
    i just kind of assume that if you're smart, you know to be humble.
  23. Jul 1, 2007 #22
    Some people define gifted children by IQ scores alone, but define gifted adults by the combination of IQ and actual achievement. Seems reasonable to me.

    My IQ scores are fairly high, especially verbal reasoning, but a lot of my co-workers are smarter at troubleshooting. I guess a high IQ score must mean you're good at something, but I'm not sure it's proof of intelligence except in a narrow sense.
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    Someone in PF (I think that it was Evo or Moonbear) once pointed out the truth about IQ tests. The only thing that they prove is how good you are at taking IQ tests.
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    I suspect genius has little to do with IQ. Galois apparently failed admissions exams to top unis so would likely have received low IQ scores, yet was clearly a genius.

    IQ means agreeing with accepted norms of intelligence, genius seems to be the opposite.

    so all us fruitcakes can claim genius!!!

    Lots of people have IQ over 149, probably many on this forum, but are not even that smart, much less geniuses. i think mine was at least 85, last i checked, (but i cheated a little).
  26. Jul 1, 2007 #25
    they use geometry to figure out who drew the most precise circle
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