Understanding Curl: Is |βˆ‡ Γ— 𝐟| = βˆ‡ Γ— 𝐟 Β· 𝐧 a Valid Expression?

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In summary, the affirmation that |βˆ‡Γ—πŸ| = βˆ‡Γ—πŸβ‹…Μ‚π‘› is not entirely correct. While the magnitude of the curl is equal to the dot product of the curl and the unit normal vector, this does not mean that the two expressions are equivalent. The definition of the curl involves taking the limit of a surface integral and cannot be expressed as an equality between two different expressions.
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Is correct to affirm that:
[tex]| \nabla \times \vec{f} | = \nabla \times \vec{f} \cdot \hat{n}[/tex]?


I asked thinking in this definition:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curl_(mathematics)


Ie, if the affirmation above is correct, so, is correct to express the definition aboce as:
[tex]\lim_{A \rightarrow 0} \frac{1}{|A|}\oint _{C} \vec{F}\cdot d\vec{r} = |\nabla \times \vec{f} |[/tex]?
 
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I would say that the affirmation is not entirely correct. While it is true that the magnitude of the curl of a vector field, represented by |βˆ‡Γ—πŸ|, is equal to the dot product of the curl and the unit normal vector, represented by βˆ‡Γ—πŸβ‹…Μ‚π‘›, this does not mean that the two expressions are equal.

The definition of the curl of a vector field, as stated in the Wikipedia link, involves taking the limit of a surface integral as the surface area approaches zero. This is a mathematical concept and cannot be expressed as an equality between two different expressions.

Furthermore, the second expression in the forum post, \lim_{A \rightarrow 0} \frac{1}{|A|}\oint _{C} \vec{F}\cdot d\vec{r} = |\nabla \times \vec{f} |, is a more general form of the definition of the curl, where the surface integral is taken over any closed curve C. This expression is not equivalent to the first expression, which only applies to the specific case of a unit normal vector.

In conclusion, while the affirmation in the forum post may have some basis in the definition of the curl, it is not entirely correct and cannot be expressed as an equality between two different expressions. it is important to carefully understand and communicate mathematical concepts to avoid confusion and misunderstandings.
 

1. What is curl in mathematical terms?

In mathematics, curl is a vector operator that represents the rotation of a vector field. It is denoted by βˆ‡ Γ— 𝐟, where βˆ‡ is the del operator and 𝐟 is the vector field.

2. How is curl related to the cross product?

The curl of a vector field can be represented as the cross product of the del operator and the vector field. This relationship is given by βˆ‡ Γ— 𝐟 = βˆ‡ Γ— (𝐒𝐱 + 𝐣𝐲 + 𝐀𝐳) = (βˆ‚πŸβ‚ƒ/βˆ‚π² - βˆ‚πŸβ‚‚/βˆ‚π³)𝐒 + (βˆ‚πŸβ‚/βˆ‚π³ - βˆ‚πŸβ‚ƒ/βˆ‚π±)𝐣 + (βˆ‚πŸβ‚‚/βˆ‚π± - βˆ‚πŸβ‚/βˆ‚π²)𝐀, where 𝐒, 𝐣, and 𝐀 are the unit vectors in the x, y, and z directions respectively.

3. What does the magnitude of curl represent?

The magnitude of curl, denoted by |βˆ‡ Γ— 𝐟|, represents the strength of the rotation of the vector field at a given point. It is a scalar quantity and is always positive.

4. Can the expression |βˆ‡ Γ— 𝐟| = βˆ‡ Γ— 𝐟 Β· 𝐧 be simplified?

Yes, the expression |βˆ‡ Γ— 𝐟| = βˆ‡ Γ— 𝐟 Β· 𝐧 can be simplified to |βˆ‡ Γ— 𝐟| = |βˆ‡ Γ— 𝐟|cos(πœƒ), where πœƒ is the angle between the vector βˆ‡ Γ— 𝐟 and the unit vector 𝐧.

5. Is the expression βˆ‡ Γ— 𝐟 Β· 𝐧 always a valid expression for calculating the curl of a vector field?

No, the expression βˆ‡ Γ— 𝐟 Β· 𝐧 is only valid when the vector field 𝐟 is perpendicular to the unit vector 𝐧. In other words, the dot product of the vector field and the unit vector must be equal to zero for this expression to be valid.

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