Absorption Of Heat; water and steam thermodynamics

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves the thermodynamics of heat transfer between steam and water, specifically focusing on the condensation of steam and the heating of water. The scenario presents steam at 120 °C interacting with water at 20 °C, aiming to determine the mass of steam that condenses when the water reaches boiling point at 100 °C.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to set up an equation based on heat gained and lost, but struggles with an unknown mass of steam. Some participants suggest assuming all steam condenses as a potential simplification. Others provide calculations based on the heat transfer equations but express confusion over discrepancies with expected results.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different assumptions and calculations. There is a recognition of potential unit issues, and while some calculations have been shared, no consensus has been reached regarding the correct approach or final answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of information regarding the total mass of steam and the importance of unit consistency in calculations. The problem also specifies to ignore thermal capacity of the container and heat losses, which may influence the reasoning process.

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Homework Statement


Steam initially at 120 oC is passed into 0.60 kg of water initially at 20 o C, and the total mass of water is just brought to the boil at 100C

What is the mass of steam that has condensed? Ignore the thermal capacity of the container and heat losses.



Homework Equations



Q = cm(T2-T1) heat = specific heat * mass * change in temperature
Q = Lm heat = heat of Vaporisation or Fusion * mass
Heat of vaporisation of water is 2260 kJ/kg
Specific heat of water is 4200 J/kg.oC
Specific heat of steam is 2100 J/kg.oC


The Attempt at a Solution


Qgained by water being heated = Qlost by steam being cooled + Q Lost by steam being condensed

cmw(T2-T1) = cmstot(T2-T1) +Lmscondensed

Unfortunately I can't seem to get rid of mstot. It is not given and I need to either work it out or find another equation. Help!
If it helps, the final answer should be 87g
 
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If the problem can't be solved otherwise, why not assume that all the steam condensed?
 
I have tried this and get
|cmw(T2-T1)| = |cms(T2-T1)| +|Lms|
|4200 * 0.6 (100-20)| = |2100 * ms(100-120)| + |2260ms|
|201600|= |-42000ms|+|2260ms|
201600 = 42000ms+2260ms
201600=44260ms
ms=4.55 kg

As I said above the answer given in the notes is 87g = 0.087kg :(
 
Check your units.
 

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