Solve AC Voltage Sources Series Problem: Find U_AB Mag. & Phase Angle

In summary, when adding two AC sinusoidal voltage sources in series with positive poles in the same direction, the voltage phasor \underline{U}_{AB}=? (underlined means phasor, complex) can be found by transforming the voltages into complex form, adding the real and imaginary parts, and then finding the magnitude and phase angle. It is important to specify the maximum (or effective) voltage and starting phase angle alpha in order to accurately describe the phasor.
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Homework Statement


If we have two AC sinusoidal voltage sources in series with +ive poles in the same direction (A... +u1- ... +u2-...B),
Find voltage phasor [itex]\underline{U}_{AB}=?[/itex] (underlined means phasor, complex) - magnitude and phase angle, and find momentary value of voltage [itex]u_{ab}[/itex] at moment t.[itex]u_1=U_{1m}\sin(\omega\cdot t+\alpha_1)\\ u_2=U_{2m}\sin(\omega\cdot t+\alpha_2)[/itex],

[itex]U_{1m}=3V\\ U_{2m}=9V\\ f=52Hz\\ t=4\cdot 10^{-3} s\\ \alpha_1=1,3 rad\\ \alpha_2=0,1 rad[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Now, I've found momentary value, (I don't know how to translate this well, it's the value of voltage in that moment t = 4ms), just by plugging in then adding both voltages and the answer is correct (10, 41V). Then I transformed both voltages in complex form, then added real and imaginary parts, got the value of the phasor at that moment (the magnitude, 7,4V (which is basically U_ab/sqrt(2)), but when I divide Im(Uab) by Re(Uab) then make tangent^-1 of that, I get the wrong angle. I get the angle of 6°... and the right is 21,22°. can someone explain the procedure after I've gotten the phasor in complex form. (x + yj, where j = i = sqrt(-1)).

Ill write my attempt:
This is U1: http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=3(sin(104*pi*4*10^-3+1.3)+i*cos (104*pi*4*10^-3+1.3))&x=0&y=0
And U2
http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=9(sin(104*pi*4*10^-3+0.1)+i*cos+(104*pi*4*10^-3+0.1))&x=0&y=0

Now adding these 2 together:
Uab=10.408 - j*1.113 V
Magnitude is square root of real and imaginary squares: Uab=10.4673
Effective: 10.4673/sqrt2=7.4015

But now when I am looking for the angle: arctg (1.113/10.408)=6.1º.

What should I do?
 
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You represented sin(wt+ɸ) as sin( ) + i.cos( )
but this means that at t=0 the angle would be arctan(cos / sin)
when you know it must be arctan(sin / cos)

So, try representing sin(wt+ɸ) as cos( ) + i.sin( )

I'm a bit vague on this myself.
 
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NascentOxygen said:
You represented sin(wt+ɸ) as sin( ) + i.cos( )
but this means that at t=0 the angle would be arctan(cos / sin)
when you know it must be arctan(sin / cos)

So, try representing sin(wt+ɸ) as cos( ) + i.sin( )

I'm a bit vague on this myself.
True, I wasn't even looking at this, I was just looking at the numbers.

Again, I get correct magnitude (r) of phasor but not the angle (I get 96° and not 21°):
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?...104pi*4*10^-3++0.1)+i*sin(104pi*4*10^-3+0.1))http://i.imgur.com/GwkylxI.png?1

This is the picture, so if there's something I've missed...
 
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Have you checked that 21° is the right answer?

Jump to the foot of this article on the maths behind the addition of two sinewaves: http://2000clicks.com/mathhelp/GeometryTrigEquivPhaseShift.aspx
 
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NascentOxygen said:
Have you checked that 21° is the right answer?

Jump to the foot of this article on the maths behind the addition of two sinewaves: http://2000clicks.com/mathhelp/GeometryTrigEquivPhaseShift.aspx
I've figured it out, it has to be when t=0ms, because it's a phasor. In order to fully describe it, you need to specify maximum (or effective, RMS value, as was specified here) voltage and starting, phase angle alpha. So I got 21,22°.
 

1. How do I calculate the magnitude of U_AB in an AC voltage sources series problem?

The magnitude of U_AB can be calculated using the formula U_AB = √(U_A² + U_B² + 2U_AU_Bcosθ), where U_A and U_B are the magnitudes of the individual AC voltages and θ is the phase angle between them.

2. What is the phase angle in an AC voltage sources series problem?

The phase angle is the difference in phase between two AC voltages in a series circuit, represented by the symbol θ. It can be calculated using the formula θ = cos⁻¹((U_A² + U_B² - U_AB²)/2U_AU_B).

3. How do I solve an AC voltage sources series problem?

To solve an AC voltage sources series problem, you will need to first find the individual magnitudes and phase angles of the AC voltages. Then, use the appropriate formula to calculate the magnitude and phase angle of the resultant voltage U_AB.

4. Can I use the same formula to find the magnitude and phase angle of U_AB for any number of AC voltage sources?

Yes, the formula for calculating the magnitude and phase angle of U_AB can be used for any number of AC voltage sources in a series circuit. Simply plug in the values for each individual voltage and calculate.

5. How can I check if my calculations for U_AB magnitude and phase angle are correct?

You can check your calculations by using the Pythagorean theorem: U_AB = √(U_A² + U_B² + 2U_AU_Bcosθ). If your calculated magnitude matches the value obtained using the formula, then your calculation is correct. Additionally, you can also verify your phase angle calculation by using the inverse cosine function: θ = cos⁻¹((U_A² + U_B² - U_AB²)/2U_AU_B). If the calculated phase angle matches the value obtained using the formula, then your calculation is correct.

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