Solve Acceleration of Hinges Problem on Brilliant.org

In summary, the problem posted on Brilliant.org involves four rods connected with frictionless hinges and placed on a smooth tabletop in the shape of a square. One vertex is acted upon by a horizontal force, causing it to move with an acceleration of ##a_P##. The question is to find k, where ##a_Q= k.a_P## and k is positive if vertex Q moves away from P and negative if it moves closer. The conversation discusses various approaches to solving the problem, including using the work-energy theorem and the center of mass frame. One person suggests using Lagrangian mechanics, but another does not understand this solution.
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Abhijeet Verma
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This is a problem posted by a member on Brilliant.org (https://brilliant.org/problems/acceleration-of-hinges/). I found one way to solve the problem, but it is really long, and i am looking for some different solutions. The problem is-

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Four similar rods of uniform density are connected with frictionless hinges. This frame is placed on a horizontal smooth tabletop, such that its shape is a square. Vertex P is acted upon by a horizontal force in the direction of the diagonal, and due to this force it begins to move at an acceleration of ##a_P##.

If the initial acceleration of the opposite vertex Q is ##a_Q= k.a_P## then find k.

k is positive if Q moves away from P and k is negative if Q moves closer to P.

Please post any solution or approach that can be applied in it.
Thanks.
 
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  • #2
Abhijeet Verma said:
I found one way to solve the problem, but it is really long
Is at least the result you get from the long solution something simple? Then there is a chance for a simpler way to solve it.
 
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A.T. said:
Is at least the result you get from the long solution something simple? Then there is a chance for a simpler way to solve it.
I solved it using the work-energy theorem, by finding the energy of the system after displacing by a small amount, and the work done by the force applied at point P, somewhat similar to what someone posted there. Finding the energy is pretty long, but yes the results are simple expressions in ##a_P## and ##a_Q##.
 
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Abhijeet Verma said:
I solved it using the work-energy theorem, by finding the energy of the system after displacing by a small amount, and the work done by the force applied at point P, somewhat similar to what someone posted there. Finding the energy is pretty long, but yes the results are simple expressions in ##a_P## and ##a_Q##.

I would try to use the center of mass frame, where the kinematics is nicely symmetrical. The center of mass frame is non-inertial, but has a known acceleration, and thus a known inertial force field. Since the inertial force field is uniform, it doesn't create any torques at the bars, around their centers of mass.
 
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First you must obtain differential equations of motion not at the single moment but for all ##t##. For ##t>0## the square will deform to a rhombus. So this is a system with two degrees of freedom

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Let ##X## be the axis of inertial frame and ##x## be the coordinate of the center of the rhombus. The generalized coordinates are ##\alpha,x##.

We shall assume that the force ##\boldsymbol F## does not depend on time. It does not matter since we will consider the differential equations at initial moment only. Then find the kinetic energy to this system ##T=T(\dot\alpha,\dot x,\alpha,x)## You will see that actually ##T## does not depend on ##x,\alpha##. And write the Lagrange equations
$$\frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial T}{\partial \dot x}-\frac{\partial T}{\partial x}=Q_x,\quad \frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial T}{\partial \dot \alpha}-\frac{\partial T}{\partial \alpha}=Q_\alpha.$$
The first equation will be ##4m\ddot x=F## (##m## is the mass of the rod), but the second one is not so evident, you have to calculate for it.
 
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wrobel said:
First you must obtain differential equations of motion not at the single moment but for all ##t##. For ##t>0## the square will deform to a rhombus. So this is a system with two degrees of freedom

0c508385e751.png


Let ##X## be the axis of inertial frame and ##x## be the coordinate of the center of the rhombus. The generalized coordinates are ##\alpha,x##.

We shall assume that the force ##\boldsymbol F## does not depend on time. It does not matter since we will consider the differential equations at initial moment only. Then find the kinetic energy to this system ##T=T(\dot\alpha,\dot x,\alpha,x)## You will see that actually ##T## does not depend on ##x,\alpha##. And write the Lagrange equations
$$\frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial T}{\partial \dot x}-\frac{\partial T}{\partial x}=Q_x,\quad \frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial T}{\partial \dot \alpha}-\frac{\partial T}{\partial \alpha}=Q_\alpha.$$
The first equation will be ##4m\ddot x=F## (##m## is the mass of the rod), but the second one is not so evident, you have to calculate for it.

Sorry, but i don't know Lagrangian Mechanics and hence don't understand the solution.
 

1. What is the "Solve Acceleration of Hinges Problem" on Brilliant.org?

The "Solve Acceleration of Hinges Problem" is a physics problem on Brilliant.org that requires the application of principles such as torque, angular acceleration, and rotational motion to determine the acceleration of hinges in a given system.

2. How difficult is the "Solve Acceleration of Hinges Problem" on Brilliant.org?

The difficulty of the problem can vary depending on the specific system and hinges involved. However, it is generally considered to be a challenging problem that requires a strong understanding of physics concepts and problem-solving skills.

3. Do I need any prior knowledge to solve the "Solve Acceleration of Hinges Problem" on Brilliant.org?

Yes, a basic understanding of principles such as torque, angular acceleration, and rotational motion is necessary to solve this problem. It is also helpful to have a familiarity with the equations and formulas used in these concepts.

4. Are there any tips or strategies for solving the "Solve Acceleration of Hinges Problem" on Brilliant.org?

One helpful strategy is to draw a free-body diagram of the system and identify all the forces acting on the hinges. It is also important to carefully consider the direction and magnitude of these forces. It can also be useful to break down the problem into smaller, more manageable parts and then combine the solutions to find the overall acceleration.

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