Adding a subject to wikipedia

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I have a homework to open an account in wekipedia and to write any public subject in astronomy or geology in the Arabic language

Or to translate a full subject from English and of course with writing the resources

Any suggestions ??
I'm new in this web site
 

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That is a bad homework, and it suggests the teacher doesn't understand how Wikipedia works either. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, and some parts are out of your control. Including possible nominations for deletion.
Anyway: Pick a topic you know something about, that makes it much easier. The English Wikipedia has article requests, the Arabic equivalent is ويكيبيديا:مقالات مقترحة. These lists usually contain important topics that don't have articles yet. Alternatively you can pick any article in the English Wikipedia and check if there is an Arabic article for the topic (check the Links at the lower left, that's how I found the Arabic version of the article requests). A translation of an existing article in a different language is easier than writing an article from scratch.

Both the English Wikipedia and the Arabic Wikipedia have help pages how to write an article, the English one has much more about it (as it is much larger).
 
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That is a bad homework, and it suggests the teacher doesn't understand how Wikipedia works either. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, and some parts are out of your control. Including possible nominations for deletion.
Anyway: Pick a topic you know something about, that makes it much easier. The English Wikipedia has article requests, the Arabic equivalent is ويكيبيديا:مقالات مقترحة. These lists usually contain important topics that don't have articles yet. Alternatively you can pick any article in the English Wikipedia and check if there is an Arabic article for the topic (check the Links at the lower left, that's how I found the Arabic version of the article requests). A translation of an existing article in a different language is easier than writing an article from scratch.

Both the English Wikipedia and the Arabic Wikipedia have help pages how to write an article, the English one has much more about it (as it is much larger).
Thank you for everything but I don't understand why do you think it's a bad homework !
My doctor is collaborating with one of the wekipedia's mangers in the area so he could choose some subjects of what we will write then publish them
 
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What course and level of schooling is this for?
 
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What course and level of schooling is this for?
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It's in The Basics of Astronomy course , I'm in my first year of studying Geology
 
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I have a homework to open an account in wekipedia and to write any public subject in astronomy or geology in the Arabic language

Or to translate a full subject from English and of course with writing the resources

Any suggestions ??
I'm new in this web site
The first option is unethical but the second option is reasonable.
 
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The first option is unethical...
So, right; what I was getting at with my question is that wiki pages are supposed to be written by people with expertise in the subjects. For scientific topics, that means phd or equivalent professional. As a non-contributing reader, I consider this assigmnent to essentially be vandalism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandalism_on_Wikipedia
 
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Sara Abu Omran
So, right; what I was getting at with my question is that wiki pages are supposed to be written by people with expertise in the subjects. For scientific topics, that means phd or equivalent professional. As a non-contributing reader, I consider this assigmnent to essentially be vandalism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandalism_on_Wikipedia
You are right but the thing is we are not trying to write any thing ..
It's all about collecting different informations about a scientific subject with their different resources in one place
 
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I have a homework to open an account in wekipedia and to write any public subject in astronomy or geology in the Arabic language

Or to translate a full subject from English and of course with writing the resources

Any suggestions ??
I'm new in this web site
You are right but the thing is we are not trying to write any thing ..
It's all about collecting different informations about a scientific subject with their different resources in one place
You stated what your assignment is; and the assignment either does require writing a wikipedia article or it does not require writing a wikipedia article. Your first posting on this topic was that the assignment is to either write a wikipedia article, OR to translate an existing article into another language. One must know precisely what ones assigned work is. A beginner student in a scientific area is not yet qualified to write a scientific article on Wikipedia, but as long as language skills are adequate, one could write a translation of an article into another language.

To now say, "we are not trying to write any thing", contradicts what you first described of your assignment. No use in creating a wikipedia account, but although being ASSIGNED TO DO SO for the intent to WRITE an article, to then not try to write an article.
 
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Sara Abu Omran
You stated what your assignment is; and the assignment either does require writing a wikipedia article or it does not require writing a wikipedia article. Your first posting on this topic was that the assignment is to either write a wikipedia article, OR to translate an existing article into another language. One must know precisely what ones assigned work is. A beginner student in a scientific area is not yet qualified to write a scientific article on Wikipedia, but as long as language skills are adequate, one could write a translation of an article into another language.

To now say, "we are not trying to write any thing", contradicts what you first described of your assignment. No use in creating a wikipedia account, but although being ASSIGNED TO DO SO for the intent to WRITE an article, to then not try to write an article.

OKK I'M SORRY FOR THE CONTRADICTORY I HAVE WRITTEN.
And i will do my best to write better next time
 
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Darn it! I was about to link this thread as another evidence on why you should not use Wikipedia as your primary source of information. Now it is all ruined!

:biggrin:o0)

Zz.
 
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Darn it! I was about to link this thread as another evidence on why you should not use Wikipedia as your primary source of information. Now it is all ruined!

:biggrin:o0)

Zz.
A YouTube video had presented a statement that the so-called approval process to actually publish a created article onto Wikipedia can take weeks or months. I do not know if true or not, but this would seem to be a big disadvantage to publishing on Wikipedia any created article. There is also the problem described ON Wikipedia and in other places, about members , ANY members, being able and actually changing in some disruptive ways, the wikipedia articles which the original author had created; and other members reverting an article contrary again to the original creater-author. Now, to remind, the mention of "vandalism" which russ_waters discussed.
 
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A YouTube video had presented a statement that the so-called approval process to actually publish a created article onto Wikipedia can take weeks or months.
As general statement this is wrong.
The English Wikipedia has a mandatory approval process for unregistered and very new* users: They can write drafts which are kept separate from regular articles until an experience editor reviewed them. For everyone else this process is optional, they can also directly create a new article.
Everything you write on Wikipedia is publicly visible (unless the whole page gets deleted), a draft could be shown to the teacher as well even before approval.

*account less than 4 days old or fewer than 10 edits, a very weak threshold.

As far as I can see the Arabic Wikipedia doesn't have such a system - everyone can just create articles directly even without an account.
There is also the problem described ON Wikipedia and in other places, about members , ANY members, being able and actually changing in some disruptive ways
Older versions are visible in the version history. Link to a specific version, not to the article.

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While it is better if articles are written by the world-class experts in the field this is not necessary. You can find and review the sources and write an article based on them. It won't be the best possible article, but see post 2: That's not how Wikipedia works. It is perfectly fine to start an article small and to have it built up by many editors over time. Nearly no article starts in a version where it would receive good ratings.
 

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