Admissible to napster?

  1. wolram

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    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/ufos/article1682846.ece

    AN RAF expert yesterday revealed how he tracked a whole fleet of “spaceships” on military radar — but the Ministry of Defence told him to keep quiet.

    Wing Commander Alan Turner, 64, said colleagues sat stunned when 35 super-fast vessels appeared on their screens.
     
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  3. cristo

    cristo 8,407
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    Re: Admisable to napster?

    Come on.. that's an article in The Sun!
     
  4. russ_watters

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    Re: Admisable to napster?

    One thing about radar - and the older it gets the more often this is the case - is that it produces a lot of clutter. Again, as with photographic evidence not improving with improving camera technology, these types of sighting used to be very common, but are getting more rare as radar technology improves, with higher resolution and better ability to distinguish real from anomalous returns.

    This "revalation" is 37 years old.
     
  5. Ivan Seeking

    Ivan Seeking 12,520
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    Re: Admisable to napster?

    The Sun is not an acceptable source. Note also that RADAR evidence is only interesting if we actually have the evidence. Without any hard data, it is still just an unsupported claim. Note also that in the Napster, we have documented military cases directly from government files that often involve RADAR contacts, sometimes by multiple stations, and sometimes in conjuction with multiple credible witnesses.

    Russ, perhaps you can present evidence supporting your claim? What are the historic and current rates of anamalous detections misidentified as UFOs?
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2008
  6. Ivan Seeking

    Ivan Seeking 12,520
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    Re: Admisable to napster?

    Btw Wolram, stories from major news sources like the BBC, London Times, Washington Post, LA Times, NPR, PBS, etc., in addition to stories in local newspapers, are appropriate for the UFO News thread.
    https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=8406
     
  7. russ_watters

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    Re: Admisable to napster?

    Cute, but a misdirection, Ivan.

    In any case, the problem of clutter in radar returns is a well-publicized, common-knowledge part of history. Any good high school history teacher touches on it when discussing Pearl Harbor.

    The advances in radar technology are pretty complicated, but if you wish to learn more, please feel free to start a discussion about it in the engineering forum or just google it. Here are a few good nuggets to get you started, though:

    http://www.ufology.ca/Content/R-01.htm

    http://www.uk-ufo.org/condign/secfilghosts1.htm
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2008
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