Which Rocket Body Shape is Aerodynamically Superior: Saturn V or N1?

In summary, the U.S. Saturn V rocket and the Soviet N1 rocket have distinct design differences in their overall body shape. The Saturn V has a straight body design with several conical regions, while the N1 has a conical design that progressively expands towards the base. While the Saturn V's shape may be more aerodynamically logical due to less drag along consistent regions, the N1's design provides more area for increased atmospheric friction. However, when considering other factors such as speed, thrust, and payload, the optimal aerodynamic flow may vary for each rocket. Ultimately, both designs have their own advantages and disadvantages and may work better in different situations.
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When looking at the design of the both the U.S. Saturn V rocket, and the Soviet N1 rocket, there is an obvious design difference between the basic overall rocket body shape.

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The Saturn V shows several conical regions, with a straight body design throughout.

The N1 shows more of a conical design, progressively expanding towards the wide base.


My belief is that the Saturn V shape is aerodynamically more logical, as it allows less drag along more consistent regions, whereas the N1 provides less area where there would be increased atmospheric friction, but I would like feedback on this, as I'd love to truly know which body design is aerodynamically superior.

(It also seems that more modern rocket body designs follow more similarity to that of the Saturn V, which supports my thinking as well.)
 
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Keep in mind that rockets are not designed solely to be the most aerodynamically sound vehicles possible. For example, the N1 has a larger cross-sectional area at the bottom in order to accommodate the massive number of thrusters at the bottom.
 
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One also must consider the speed which the vehicles will be traveling as a function of altitude, and the thrust to weight/mass ratio.
 
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Yes, though I'm basically asking which basic shape contains a more optimal aerodynamic flow, regardless of optimization for internal component housing.
 
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"Optimal aerodynamic flow", for what velocity and altitude? (amongst other things).

I think the flight envelope on this vehicle is soooo large, it is a game of "trade offs"

Alter the payload and all of a sudden, the problem is different. Now the altitude where shock waves form is different.

They both work, perhaps one is only better than the other given a specific set of variables.
 
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Actually, they don't both work. The N1 failed rather spectacularly, and was never successfully flown as designed. As for the drag though, I would imagine that the Saturn V would be the lower drag design, although as stated above, neither was designed with drag as the primary consideration.
 

What is aerodynamics and why is it important in rocket design?

Aerodynamics is the study of how air flows around objects, and it is important in rocket design because it affects the performance and stability of the rocket during flight. By understanding aerodynamics, engineers can design rockets that are more efficient, faster, and more stable.

What are the different types of rocket shapes and how do they affect aerodynamics?

There are three main types of rocket shapes: cylindrical, conical, and ogive. Cylindrical rockets have a constant diameter, while conical rockets taper towards the top. Ogive rockets have a curved shape. These shapes affect aerodynamics by changing the amount of drag and lift the rocket experiences during flight.

How does the center of gravity and center of pressure impact the aerodynamics of a rocket?

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