Affirmative Actions case at the Supreme Court

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Originally posted by Zero
Hmmm...depends on the situation. See, we try to balance things, and some have to sacrifice for the common good. Sacrifice, however, is something that people hate more than anything.
Individual vs group rights again, eh? An individual's right to not be discriminated against is less important than a group's right to receive reparation for past discrimination. Thats the crux of the issue as presented to the Supreme Court (usually) and I am confident that the Supreme will reject that arguement as it has all previous arguements along the same lines.

Affirmative Action is unconstitutional for that exct reason.

They try to avoid making that arguement by stating the goal of "diversity" and avoiding the whole discrimination issue altogether. But thats not why affirmative action was implimented and that is why AA is pretty much always rejected in court.
 
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ndividual vs group rights again, eh? An individual's right to not be discriminated against is less important than a group's right to receive reparation for past discrimination. Thats the crux of the issue as presented to the Supreme Court (usually) and I am confident that the Supreme will reject that arguement as it has all previous arguements along the same lines.

Affirmative Action is unconstitutional for that exct reason.

They try to avoid making that arguement by stating the goal of "diversity" and avoiding the whole discrimination issue altogether. But thats not why affirmative action was implimented and that is why AA is pretty much always rejected in court.
No, actually you have no ideaq what you are talking aboutl Read up on the history of the issue. The argument for affirmative action has focused on the validity of cross-ethnic and economic comparison of SATs and GPAs (as well as diversity, which is very important).
 
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Originally posted by RageSk8
No, actually you have no ideaq what you are talking aboutl Read up on the history of the issue. The argument for affirmative action has focused on the validity of cross-ethnic and economic comparison of SATs and GPAs (as well as diversity, which is very important).
Cross-ethnic and economic comparison of SATs and GPAs are an analysis of discrimination's impact on scholastic achievement. Thats the whole point of AA in college admissions - to counter-act the perceived discrimination that exists in colleges. People see that Harvard is less than 1% black and perceive that it is a result of discrimination. The arguement for diversity for the sake of diversity is a more recent smoke screen to justify obvious [reverse] discrimination. WHY is diversity important for AA? Or is diversity important simply for the sake of diversity? If so, then its not AA.

Remember, college admissions are not the only place AA has been implimented. Is "diversity" important when awarding building contracts in a city? Does the "diversity" of the construction company affect the quality of the building? No and no. AA was implimented strictly to counter-act discrimination within the construction companies.

In PA, the suburban and rural police stations are required to actively recruit minorities. Why? The lack of minorities in police jobs is perceived as being the result of discrimination. Never mind that blacks simply aren't applying for the jobs. How would you feel if you went into apply for a job somewhere and the boss said, sorry but we're looking for someone of a different race...?
 
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Thought that this was appropriate for the thread, it was on the NY Times website today...
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ps: why does it only display a link when I used the [ IMG] tags? Can you get it to display a picture?
 

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