Agnostic theist and agnostic athiest question

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I have something of a disagreement with someone over semantics
I don't see a problem with someone being an agnostic theist as I see agnostic as a statement about knowledge and theist as a statement of belief which someone is clamming to be an oxymoron. His position is if you believe God exists then you must know God exists, I maintain is that you cant truly know

The other disagreement is atheist agnostic. He claims atheist is a a belied that God does not exist and its always been defined that way and agnostic is simply a lack of belief
He seems to think that knowledge equals belief

Just what are the former proper definitions and just what is the difference if any between knowledge and belief
 

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We have many, many threads on this. If I have time, I'll look some up and post the defintions for you.

Here are the best that had been previously posted.

Atheism, in a broad sense, is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[2] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[3] Atheism is contrasted with theism,[4][5] which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.[5][6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism
 

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