Russ, Rather than Hijack your thread re:the 'Poll', I am creating a related link here: Just another little observation about 'suicidal behaviour' and 'military mentality'. Russ, you equate what these people do in the name of their cause as 'immoral'. How do you explain the USA and their attitude to the Tuskeegee Airmen and the venerial disease scandle, the deliberate collaberation of McArthur in not prosecuting Iishi over his activities in China so that he could gain information for the bio-weapons later used in Korea, and activities such as this gained by other 'civil' western states? You mentioned 'morality' of military technique in many of your posts. You are aware that bioweapons were banned in 1925 under the Geneva Protocols and that the USA and their new ally Japan (currently seeking a SC veto) have been the world's largest producers of these weapons since that time? (Well, where do you think the 'terrorists' got their cannister of sarin gas that was used in the Tokyo subway!? ) You DO keep on mentioning 'morality' in reference to war/terrorism. We are after all discussing the people who supplied the technology and the know how to Saddam to produce the gasses he used on the Kurds and the Iranians notto mention the satellite intel on the best times, weather conditions and troop movements... Yes ... the fruits of illegal research don't seem to fall far from the tree and what is this illegal substance but an act of terrorism? Was Saddam field testing your bio-tech for you?