A number of meetings with fellow UFO enthusiasts [academic types, not people wearing antennas] have brought to light an interesting fact about human nature. Even though each of has our own ideas about what's going on with UFOs, and even though we enjoy meeting and discussing the cases and recent papers, I have noticed that whenever we cross swords, we view each other with a cynical eye. To the point that we agree, we all smile and consider how uninformed or irrational the debunkers are. When we disagree, we all look at each other with great suspicion. :rofl: Its funny when you think about it, but perhaps UFO people are really no more open to new ideas than anyone else. New ideas are still met with automatic dismissals with hardly any thought given - the very same thing that we all get so annoyed with in skeptics and debunkers. I have seen it in myself and others. The same thing happens with ghost stories. I know what Tsu and I experienced. I don't know what it was, but I know what happened. When I hear others telling similar stories, my gut reaction is, "ah, bull". It doesn't stick, but its there. Perhaps if it weren't for our experience I would still think it's all bull.