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An Ode to the City of Portland

  1. Aug 8, 2004 #1

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    I'd like to dedicate a special tribute to the city and to all of the posters here who live in the city of Portland, Oregon. I spend a couple of days up there recently to visit some colleges and had a great time. I love the gloomy weather (seriously, I hate heat), didn't mind the rain at all, and found the scenery and air quality to be quite an upgrade from the LA area. I like the small city blocks and all the brewpubs, too. And one last thing - the system used to pay for curbside parking is brilliant. I've always thought that meters were very unfair in that you couldn't take the extra minutes with you, and lo and behold, along comes a city where you can take them with you. Kudos to the city planners.
     
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  3. Aug 8, 2004 #2

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    One little caveat, though. I highly doubt that Powel's City of Books is the largest bookstore in the country. The Strand in New York certainly seemed a great deal larger.
     
  4. Aug 8, 2004 #3

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    Having grown up in LA I too can really appreciate the beauty of Portland. In fact Portland is internationally renowned for its growth management and is considered a model city. One of the key features of this is that the city does not continually annex new property. This helps to keep the money in the city center rather that distributing the wealth over a larger geographic area.

    I’d say the biggest failure has been in the road systems. We have many areas in real trouble already with no end in sight. Still, on a clear night, the view of the city is absolutely spectacular – with the rivers, boats, bridges, river front areas, and the city skyline.

    Btw, the view of downtown Long Beach from the Queen Mary is quite spectacular as well. That used to be a really bad area. I remember when all of those high end coffee shops and restaurants were tattoo parlors and liquor stores.
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  5. Aug 8, 2004 #4

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    Did they say this country? :rolleyes:
     
  6. Aug 8, 2004 #5
    A visit to ANY OTHER city outside of LA will help you to appreciate the better air quality;).

    Oh, and in regards to long beach, I keep hearing it's going through a revitalization phase. Last affordable beach city, lots of improvements being made.. good real estate investment-if you can afford it.
     
  7. Aug 8, 2004 #6

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    Yeah, I'm shocked they don't call it the "Biggest bookstore in this Universe" !

    Ivan, where do you get off calling tattoo parlors and liquor stores 'bad', huh ? :biggrin: :tongue:
     
  8. Aug 8, 2004 #7

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    Portland is where I live too :smile: It has been my home for 17 years now. Powell's bookstore certainly blows most bookstores to shreds!! As for the gloomy weather, we really don't have it that bad, matter of fact we are so "known" for it, but the Puget Sound area (Seattle) has it much worse then we do! Oregon has become a place where many have flocked to in recent years, I just hope the housing stays affordable in the Portland area come my time to finally purchase my own home. :shy:

    Another great thing about living in Portland, is you can drive no more then 2 hours and you will see waterfalls, volcanoes (we have the most in the continental US, Alaska has more), canyons, temperate rainforests, lava formations, and of course the beautiful beach where gray whales will migrate through. Portland is a liberal city, with it's flock of local artisans (Saturday Market is their dwelling come the weekends), and nearly every weekend in the summer Waterfront Park will host some kind of public event. This last weekend it was Flugtag, which I enjoyed immensely. Just for you loseyourname, the third weekend in July is the Oregon Brewer's Festival, where you can "sample" many different types of beer. At one point in time, I believe Oregon had the highest output of beer next to Germany!

    A little over 5 years ago, I moved from Portland to Phoenix Arizona for a "change", and a year later I turned back for home and decided to never leave again. I had no appreciation for what a great city Portland is, or how great Oregon is until I left.
     
  9. Aug 8, 2004 #8

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    In all fairness I really should add this. I have a friend who has traveled throughout China and Indonesia, the Middle East, deepest darkest Africa, he has even canoed down miles and miles of remote African rives and stayed with semi primitive tribes. According to him [and most people that I know], Portland is the most difficult place to navigate on earth. Driving in some areas of the downtown is a nightmare for the unacquainted. I even know people who grew up in Portland that can still get lost at times.

    Edit: Of course it gets tough to build roads when you keep running into rivers and hills. The scenic beauty is the problem.
     
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  10. Aug 8, 2004 #9

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    I was only in Portland one time. I was twelve, and the family took a trip to a relative's cabin on the shore of Lake Crescent, Washington. On the way we stopped and ate at a restaurant in Portland with a family we knew that had recently moved there from Arizona. I mainly remember seeing impressive bridges, no doubt spanning the nearby Columbia River.
     
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  11. Aug 8, 2004 #10

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    Janitor, you're not 16 now, are you ?
     
  12. Aug 8, 2004 #11

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    I plead 'not guilty' to being 16. To some folks, it may seem like I am 16, I admit. :redface:

    Never met Kerrie either, that I know of.
     
  13. Aug 8, 2004 #12

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    By the way, I was in southern Oregon just a few years ago. I stopped to gas up the old clunker, and the gas station attendant asked me what I was doing. It seems Oregon has a state law against self-service gasoline. :mad:
     
  14. Aug 8, 2004 #13
    Is the city of Portland getting a new baseball team? There seems to be news of them taking the Expos?

    As for Powell's bookstore, I've heard a lot about it. I never thought that a store could be a city attraction.
     
  15. Aug 8, 2004 #14

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    many here oppose the baseball team because the city of Portland had cut a lot of funding for its public schools...it would show a serious lack of good judgement if we moved in a baseball team yet couldn't fund many public school activities that other states deem as necessary in a well rounded public education...
     
  16. Aug 8, 2004 #15

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    yes, Oregon does have a law against self-service...we also don't have a sales tax so tourism is immense, yet the residents have a high state income tax :devil:
     
  17. Aug 8, 2004 #16

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    That is true. I got lost quite a few times, but the smaller size combined with less traffic still make it easier to get around on the streets than it is in LA. In respect for great street layout, I've got to give it up to the Borough of Manhattan in the City of New York for their very simple grid system. Of course, it's just a flat island, which is much easier on the city planners. Although it wasn't the easiest city to drive in, Portland was very easy to walk around in, and the public transit was also very good and I didn't find that too difficult to navigate.
     
  18. Aug 8, 2004 #17

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    How many bridges did you see? We only have two that cross the Columbia; The Interstate bridge on which I-5 crosses and the Glenn Jackson bridge for I-205.

    Most of the bridges cross the Willamette river, which bisects Portland East and West. There's the St. John's bridge, the Fremont bridge,, the Broadway bridge, the Steel bridge, The Burnside bridge, The Morrison bridge, The Hawthorne bridge, the Marquam bridge(I-5 again), the Ross Island bridge and the Sellwood bridge.

    Many of the Willamette bridges are close enough to each other to be seen as a group.
     
  19. Aug 8, 2004 #18
    Won't a baseball team be better for your economy?

    The richer the city, the richer the schools.
     
  20. Aug 8, 2004 #19

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    Was it Oracle Jones in Hallelujah Trail who upped the number after each shot of whiskey given to him by his fellow bar patrons? "Well shir, I shee ten wagon trains croshin' that deshert... I shee twenty wagon trains croshin'..."

    Well shir, I see in my mind's eye maybe a cluster of two or three bridges--one of them may have been a railroad bridge, mind you--grayed through the misty air, off to my right as we clawed our way northward in the trusty Chevy Impala, fighting off that frigid Canadian norther...
     
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  21. Aug 8, 2004 #20

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    but you have many people here who think the money used for the team should go to the schools first, then a team...
     
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