# Angle of a F*r calculation

1. Homework Statement

Force F= (-6.93 N) + (7.85 N) acts on a particle with position vector r = (4.66 m) + (1.36 m). What are (a) the magnitude of the torque on the particle about the origin and (b) the angle between the directions of and ?

2. Homework Equations

3. The Attempt at a Solution

So I find (a) to be 46.0058 N*m which is correct and for (b) I use t/f*r

So 46.0058/sqrt(6.93^2+7.85^2)*sqrt(4.66^2+1.36^2) = .9050610046

sin-1(of that) = 64.8315006 = angle. But this is incorrect?

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G01
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Remember this definition of the dot product?

$$\vec{A}\cdot\vec{B}=|A||B|\cos\theta$$

Try using this to solve for the angle and see if it gives the same value. (I think the cross product formula should work, but for some reason I'm getting a different value for the angle in each one...)

Does that work with a vector? I've been using t = rFsin(Theta)

Only thing I could think of is maybe its in the wrong quadrant but that doesn't seem to be the problem.

G01
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Does that work with a vector? I've been using t = rFsin(Theta)
Yes. It's the formula for the dot product between two vectors. Theta is the angle between the vectors.

Also, you have to know that:

$$\vec{A}\cdot\vec{B}=A_xB_x+A_yB_y$$

in order to use the dot product formula to find the angle between the vectors.

Let A=F and B=r and see what angle the dot product formula gives you.

(Sorry if you haven't learned what I'm talking about here. I also got the same angle you did with the formula your using. So I'm trying to check that answer with another equation.)

Really appreciate the help, not sure what its looking for :(

G01
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Really appreciate the help, not sure what its looking for :(
Well. I think the method your using should be correct. Here is what I suggest.

If your answer for the torque is correct, and the angle you get from the torque formula is wrong, I suggest the following alternative method:

Find the angle of the F vector from the x axis. (You should be able to do this using the components.)

Do the same for the r vector.

Now you should be able to subtract the two angles to find the angle between them.