Understanding Angular Momentum and Energy Equations

In summary, the conversation is about obtaining equations (9.7a and b) by differentiating equations (9.8a and b) with respect to time, in the context of acceleration and energy and momentum angular in a central force motion. The person is questioning their differentiation process and considering the possibility of a mistake. They eventually realize their mistake and use the equation L = mw²r to find the correct answer.
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Homework Statement
1. Obtain Eqs.(9.7a and b) by differentiating Eqs.(9.8a and b) with respect to time.
Relevant Equations
Aceleration in a polar coordinates and energy and momentum angular in a central force motion
Since the equations are, actually, the question, i will post the image with relevant equations here:

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it seems strange, I'm almost sure that I didn't make a mistake in the differentiation, but differentiating 9.8b I found 9.7a with both positive terms
 
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LCSphysicist said:
Homework Statement:: 1. Obtain Eqs.(9.7a and b) by differentiating Eqs.(9.8a and b) with respect to time.
Relevant Equations:: Aceleration in a polar coordinates and energy and momentum angular in a central force motion

Since the equations are, actually, the question, i will post the image with relevant equations here:

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it seems strange, I'm almost sure that I didn't make a mistake in the differentiation, but differentiating 9.8b I found 9.7a with both positive terms
Did you remember to differentiate ##r^2\dot\theta^2## using the product rule?
 
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haruspex said:
Did you remember to differentiate ##r^2\dot\theta^2## using the product rule?
Yes, will post soon.
 
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[This solution is actually equal to my solution, which is, unfortunately, not equal to equation nine.seven a]

Assuming theta two dots equal zero.
 
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LCSphysicist said:
Yes,
No, you didn't.
LCSphysicist said:
Assuming theta two dots equal zero.
Why would you assume that?
 
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haruspex said:
No, you didn't.

Why would you assume that?
I did, just cutted the therm with theta two dots and so don't put in the resolution:

call theta by a
(r²a²')' = 2rr'a²' + 2r²a'a'', if a'' is zero, = 2rr'a²' like the image

But stopping to think now, i really see that [theta]'' is not zero, how to deal with that term?
 
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Wow, using L = mw²r i got the answer! thank you
 

1. What is angular momentum?

Angular momentum is a physical quantity that measures the rotational motion of an object. It is calculated by multiplying the moment of inertia (a measure of an object's resistance to change in its rotational motion) by the angular velocity (the rate at which an object rotates).

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Angular momentum is conserved in a closed system, meaning that it remains constant unless acted upon by an external torque. This is due to the law of conservation of angular momentum, which states that the total angular momentum of a system remains constant in the absence of external torques.

3. What is the relationship between angular momentum and energy?

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