# Angular Momentum vs Action

1. Mar 29, 2009

### referframe

The Principle of Stationary Action plays a role in Classical Physics (Lagrangians), Quantum Mechanics and QED (phase), GR (geodesics of maximum Proper Time) and apparently even in String Theory. Action and Angular Momentum share the same units. Other than sharing units, is there a real physical connection between Action and Angular Momentum? As always, thanks in advance.

2. Mar 29, 2009

### Dr.D

Not really.

3. Mar 29, 2009

### Peeter

If one can find symmetries in the Lagrangian (changes of variables that leave it unchanged), then the chain rule in a form known as Noether's theorem can be used to find conserved quantities.

For example, a rotation of coordinates for a Lagrangian that has a kinetic energy and central potential (ie: Newtonian gravity) can be used to show that angular momentum is conserved. An example of this can be found in Tong's classical physics notes here:

http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/tong/dynamics.htm

4. Mar 29, 2009

### Cantab Morgan

Yeah, that wigs me out a little. What about torque and energy having the same units?

5. Mar 30, 2009

Staff Emeritus
Be careful. They share the same dimensions, not the same units.

6. Mar 30, 2009

### Cantab Morgan

Hi Vanadium 50. Could you elaborate a bit please? I've never heard of a distinction.

7. Apr 4, 2009

### referframe

I believe I see Vanadium 50's point. Energy is Force dot Distance whereas Torque is Force cross Distance. Which indirectly answers my original question regarding Action and Angular Momentum sharing the same "units". Action is a pure scalar whereas Angular Momentum is a vector. So, when one takes into account the geometry of the situation, dimensions and units may not be the same thing.

Last edited: Apr 4, 2009