Find Integer Solutions for x^3 + x^{2}y + xy^2 + y^3 = 8(x^2 + xy + y^2 + 1)

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In summary: This is a result of the previous inequalities. Since we know that either u^2 - v^2 + 1 < u^2 or v^2 - u^2 - 1 < v^2, we also know that either 2(u^2 - v^2 + 1) < 2u^2 or 2v^2 < 2(v^2 - u^2 - 1). This leads to 2(u^2 - v^2 + 1) < u^2 + v^2 or u^2 + v^2 < 2(v^2 - u^2 - 1). But since we know that u^2 + v^2 >
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how to find the integer solutions of the following equation:
[tex]x^3 + x^{2}y + xy^2 + y^3 = 8(x^2 + xy + y^2 + 1)[/tex]

after simplifying, i got,
[tex](x^2 + y^2)(x + y - 8) = 8(xy + 1)[/tex]

from this, i can see that x and y are both odd or both even. but what should i do next. i tried putting x = 2p and y = 2q but that's not going anywhere.

thanks in advance.
 
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anyone? please:confused:
 
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Murshid ,my man,here it is

murshid_islam said:
after simplifying, i got,
[tex](x^2 + y^2)(x + y - 8) = 8(xy + 1)[/tex]

Obviously [itex]x\equiv y (mod2)[/itex].
WLOG,put x=u+v,y=u-v and it is sufficient to consider:
[tex](u^2+v^2)(u-4)-2(u^2-v^2+1)=0[/tex]
  • if v=0,then u3-6u2-2=0
    This equation has no solutions in [itex]\mathbb{Z}[/itex]
  • if u=0,then v2+1=0 has no solutions in [itex]\mathbb{Z}[/itex]
  • if [itex]|u|\geq 1,|v|\geq 1[/itex] ,then, [itex] u^2+v^2>|u^2-v^2+1|[/itex] with consequence that [itex]|u-4|=1[/itex] must hold.
  • if u=3 ,than v2-29=0 has no solutions in [itex]\mathbb{Z}[/itex]
  • if u=5 ,than v2-9=0 has solutions v1=3,v2=-3

Thus, the diophantine equation we started with, has only two solutions in x,y :
S={(2,8),(8,2)}
 
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i didn't understand a few things. for example,

tehno said:
Obviously [itex]x\equiv y (mod2)[/itex].
where is this used?

if [itex]|u|\geq 1,|v|\geq 1[/itex] ,then, [itex] u^2+v^2>|u^2-v^2+1|[/itex] with consequence that [itex]|u-4|=1[/itex] must hold.
how did you get this?
 
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ok, i understood this much:
if x = u+v and y = u-v, then x - y = 2v. therefore,
[tex]x - y \equiv 0 (\bmod \\ 2)[/tex]
[tex]x \equiv y (\bmod \\ 2)[/tex]

but what about the second one i mentioned in my last post? what i want to know is how did tehno get:

tehno said:
if [itex]|u| \geq 1, |v|\geq 1[/itex], then, [itex] u^2+v^2>|u^2-v^2+1|[/itex] with consequence that [itex]|u-4|=1[/itex] must hold.
 
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answer

murshid_islam said:
what i want to know is how did tehno get:...
by splitting it in two cases:

a) [itex]|u|\geq|v|\geq 1\rightarrow u^2-v^2+1\leq u^2<u^2+v^2[/itex]

b) [itex]|v|>|u|\geq 1\rightarrow |u^2-v^2+1|=v^2-u^2-1<v^2<u^2+v^2[/itex]

Joining these two in other words means that:

[tex]|u-4|=|2(u^2-v^2+1):(u^2+v^2)|<2\longrightarrow|u-4|=0\ or \ |u-4|=1[/tex]
which I specified in the post .
 
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tehno said:
a) [itex]|u|\geq|v|\geq 1\rightarrow u^2-v^2+1\leq u^2<u^2+v^2[/itex]

b) [itex]|v|>|u|\geq 1\rightarrow |u^2-v^2+1|=v^2-u^2-1<v^2<u^2+v^2[/itex]

is this how you got a) and b) ?:
[tex]|u| \geq |v| \geq 1[/tex]

[tex]u^2 \geq v^2 \geq 1[/tex]

[tex]-u^2 \leq -v^2 \leq -1[/tex]

[tex]0 \leq u^2 - v^2 \leq u^2 -1[/tex]

[tex]1 \leq u^2 - v^2 + 1 \leq u^2[/tex]

now [tex]u^2 - v^2 + 1 \leq u^2 < u^2 + v^2[/tex]

again,
[tex]|v| > |u| \geq 1[/tex]

[tex]v^2 > u^2 \geq 1[/tex]

[tex]-v^2 < -u^2 \leq -1[/tex]

[tex]0 < v^2 - u^2 \leq v^2 - 1[/tex]

[tex]1 < v^2 - u^2 + 1 \leq v^2[/tex]

now,
[tex]v^2 - u^2 - 1 < v^2 - u^2 + 1 \leq v^2 < u^2+ v^2[/tex]
[tex]v^2 - u^2 - 1 < v^2 < u^2 + v^2[/tex]

but how did you get the following:
tehno said:
Joining these two in other words means that:

[tex]|u-4|=|2(u^2-v^2+1):(u^2+v^2)|<2\longrightarrow|u-4|=0\ or \ |u-4|=1[/tex]
which I specified in the post .
 

1. What is the equation being solved in this problem?

The equation being solved is x^3 + x^{2}y + xy^2 + y^3 = 8(x^2 + xy + y^2 + 1).

2. What type of solutions are being sought for in this problem?

Integer solutions, which means that the values for x and y must be whole numbers.

3. How many solutions are there for this equation?

There are infinitely many solutions for this equation, as there are an infinite number of integer values for x and y.

4. Can this equation be solved using algebraic methods?

Yes, this equation can be solved using algebraic methods such as factoring, completing the square, or using the quadratic formula.

5. How can this equation be visualized graphically?

This equation can be graphed in a three-dimensional coordinate system, with the values for x and y on the x and y axes, and the value of the equation on the z axis. The graph would show a curved surface that intersects with the plane z = 8 at multiple points, representing the integer solutions.

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