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fresh_42

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If that happens then please notify the mentors.
No it hasn't been "off topic" only a misconception of reasoning for the cause of a physical phenomena. It was neither false nor was it off topic. It was simply not responsible for the observation.
 

berkeman

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That's right, and since then PF has become a kindlier, friendlier forum. Before that, logging into PF was a lot like running into a Mongol horde out on lower reaches of the Volga...
Well, that's mostly a coincidence... :smile:

About the same time, Greg led some very heartfelt discussions in the Mentor forums, where we discussed the tradeoffs between a very friendly forum and treating crackpots strictly and quickly to spare our members from having to deal with them. I think the balance we've struck has turned out to work very well. It's a big challenge, but it's worth the effort, IMO.
 

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No it hasn't been "off topic" only a misconception of reasoning for the cause of a physical phenomena. It was neither false nor was it off topic. It was simply not responsible for the observation.
Fresh, I don't really know what you're getting at, but if you'd like to discuss it further feel free to contact myself or another mentor.
 

m k

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What if you don't trust them.
What if they are just a bunch of bullies.
 

berkeman

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What if you don't trust them.
What if they are just a bunch of bullies.
Don't trust who? The Mentors? We are very trustworthy, and we can all see each others Mentoring actions. No bullies here... :smile:
 

m k

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Who decides that.
Don't reveal yourselves.
 

berkeman

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Who decides that.
Don't reveal yourselves.
Who decides what? You are kind of speaking in riddles at the moment...
 

Ibix

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The Illuminati choose the mentors. Haven't you noticed the clues in their user numbers?
 

Drakkith

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What if you don't trust them.
What if they are just a bunch of bullies.
If you're talking about the mentors, then all I can say is that if you believe this, there's really nothing to say. If you believe we're bullies and don't trust us, there's probably nothing we can do to convince you otherwise and you have little reason to contact us.
 

m k

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I'm just one.
You are many.
Yes, they ARE many. Many people who spend a lot of time making this forum the outstanding place that it is. They aren't paid for all the time they spend here and they have to put up with crackpots, disgruntled members who sometimes don't like what they do to keep the site running smoothly and they even put up with grumpy members like me who aren't always as friendly in our posts as they would like. Yeah, sometimes their decisions seem quite arbitrary ... they ARE human after all (except for Drakkit who is a robot) ... but they are not bullies and if you don't like what one of them does you should PM him/her.
 

m k

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What if one doesn't believe in PMs.
First protection is publicity.
 
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What if one doesn't believe in PMs.
I think there is quite solid evidence for the existence of PMs.

Protection of what? This is Greg's forum, if he wants to, he can ban anyone he likes - he does not do that, of course, bans are only issued for serious or repeated violation of the forum rules, to keep the forum a nice place. He can also give the rights to ban users to other users of his choice, so they can help to keep the forum a nice place.
If you don't trust Greg at all, this forum is probably not the right place for you. If you do trust him, then you can also trust his choice of mentors.
 

collinsmark

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(except for Drakkit who is a robot)
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Actually, @Drakkith is a space marine.

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He's just wearing a protective helmet is all. (Safety first!) Here's what he looks like without the helmet:

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I understand the logic and reasoning for (some) of the treads being closed. I had a thread closed simply because someone besides myself "injected politics" into the conversations. I once made a joke in a particular thread that was an odd topic to begin with and in no way was it offensive, but was deemed inappropriate. I have seen far more offensive and speculative language used as explanations "reasons" for closing threads from particular mentors. NOONE is above reproach.
That being said people are human and in some cases people with "power" will tend to abuse it on certain occasions. I don't care how reasonable factual "commonsense" or true your opinion is. If another member reports you because you can put up a good argument for your opinion and even the opposition can see your logic, they can always fall back on the "acceptable sources" rule. All crackpottery aside, Even if your information is good and even if its been peer reviewed if its been hidden behind a pay wall and you aren't willing to buy that information you can and in some cases most definitely will be closed, deleted, and in some cases disciplined for your actions.
 

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