Finding x in a Logarithmic Equation: A Challenging Problem

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In summary, the conversation is about finding the value of x in the equation 2(x-1) = 5(73x). The person has attempted multiple solutions and received help from BobM, who suggests taking the log right away. This leads to the solution x = (ln5 + ln2) / (ln2 - 3ln7).
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Homework Statement


This one has has me pretty lost, I'm not at all sure what to do, I've tried a couple of things. I have to find x.

2(x-1) = 5(73x)

Homework Equations


Logarithm laws?

The Attempt at a Solution


(did multiple attempts but my most reasonable to my account)

2(x-1) = 5(73x)
[2(x-1)/5] = 73x
[(x-1) log 2/5] = 3x log 7
(x-1) log 2 = 5(3x*log 7)
(x-1) log 2 = 15x * 5 log 7
(x-1) log 2 = 15x * log 75
(x-1) log 2 = 15x * log 16807
x-1 = (15x * log 16807) / (log 2)
x-1 = 15x * 14.034
x = 15x * 14.034 + 1
x = 15x * 15.034
x/15x = 15.034
1/15x = 15.034
x = 15.034 * (1/15)
x = 210.51

I believe I am completetly off and I really can't figure this out, help will be appreciated!
 
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Hi,
Try taking the log right away:

(x-1)ln2 = ln5 + 3xln7
xln2 - 3xln7 = ln5 + ln2
x = (ln5 + ln2) / (ln2 - 3ln7)

Not a very satisfying answer, is it?

Regards, BobM
 
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BobMonahon said:
Hi,
Try taking the log right away:

(x-1)ln2 = ln5 + 3xln7
xln2 - 3xln7 = ln5 + ln2
x = (ln5 + ln2) / (ln2 - 3ln7)

Not a very satisfying answer, is it?

Regards, BobM

Thank you, that is very helpful, I understand how you got from
xln2 - 3xln7 = ln5 + ln2
to
x = (ln5 + ln2) / (ln2 - 3ln7)

but I don't really understand what happened with the (x-1) when you go from
(x-1)ln2 = ln5 + 3xln7
to
xln2 - 3xln7 = ln5 + ln2

Thank you in advanced.
 
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I understood what was done!

(x-1)ln2 = ln5 + 3xln7
x ln 2 - ln 2 = ln 5 + 3xln7
x ln 2 - 3x ln 7 = ln 5 + ln 2
x (ln 2 - 3 ln 7) = ln 5 + ln 2
x = ln 5 + ln 2 / ln 2 - 3 ln 7

Thanksss!
 

1. What is a logarithm?

A logarithm is an inverse operation to exponentiation. It is used to find the power to which a base number must be raised to equal a given number. For example, the logarithm base 10 of 100 is 2, because 10 to the power of 2 is 100.

2. What is the difference between a natural logarithm and a common logarithm?

A natural logarithm, denoted by "ln", has a base of the mathematical constant e (approximately 2.718). A common logarithm, denoted by "log", has a base of 10. The main difference is the base number used, which will result in different numerical values for the same input.

3. How do you solve a logarithm problem?

To solve a logarithm problem, you can use the properties of logarithms, such as the power rule, product rule, and quotient rule. You can also use a calculator or logarithm tables to find the numerical value of a logarithm.

4. Can a logarithm be negative?

Yes, a logarithm can be negative. This happens when the base number is greater than 1 and the input number is between 0 and 1. For example, the logarithm base 2 of 0.5 is -1, because 2 to the power of -1 is 0.5.

5. How are logarithms used in real life?

Logarithms have many practical applications in fields such as science, engineering, and finance. They are used to represent data with a large range of values, such as earthquake magnitudes and pH levels. They are also used in algorithms and scientific models to solve complex problems.

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