Solving a Differential Equation: y`=1/(6e^y-2x)

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem with a differential equation and the correct solution, which involves finding the correct integrating factor and making a substitution to simplify the solution process. The conversation includes a correction to the initial calculation and explains the reasoning behind the substitution for a faster and simpler solution.
  • #1
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for the following question:
y`=1/(6e^y-2x)

my problem:
dx-(6e^y-2x)dy=0
so (1/F)(dF/dx)=2
=>F=e^2x
so e^2x-(e^2x)(6e^y-2x)dy=0
so (integration)(d^2x)dx=(1/2)e^2x +h(y)
=>h(y)= -6e^(2x+y)+xye^2x+c
so (1/2)e^2x-6e^(2x+y)+xye^2x+c-0

however the correct answer should be
y=ce^(-2y)+2e^y

does anybody know where my calculations went wrong?
 
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  • #2
Your correct answer hasn't got an x-term in it. Is that a typo ?
 
  • #3
no, it's not a typo~
 
  • #4
Did a little research on this. Finally figured out what you were trying to do
You have a differential equation and you were trying to force it to be an exact DE, yes ?

I'm afraid you got the integrating factor wrong.
You had,

(1/F)dF/dx = 2,

that should have been

(1/F(y))dF(y)/dy = 2

giving,

F(y) = e^(3y)

Also, your "correct answer" is wrong,

[tex]y = ce^{-2y} + 2e^y[/tex]

There is no x-term in this eqn, so you have no relation between x and y, so you can't use this eqn to get a DE that involves an x, since x was never involved in the first place.

The actual answer is,

[tex]c = x.e^{2y} - 2e^{3y}[/tex]
or
[tex]x = c.e^{-2y} + 2e^y[/tex]

If you differentiate that, you'll end with the DE you started with.
 
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  • #5
HINT:Make [itex] e^{y(x)}=t(x) [/itex]

Daniel.
 
  • #6
opps... i corrected the integrating factor and it works! f=e^2y~
why did you think of making [itex] e^{y(x)}=t(x) [/itex]?
 
  • #7
I guess that's a substitution you get to know with experience ?

It's faster/simpler than doing the exact differential thing.
 

1. What is a differential equation?

A differential equation is a mathematical equation that relates a function with its derivatives. It describes the rate of change of a system at any given point.

2. How do you solve a differential equation?

To solve a differential equation, you need to find the function that satisfies the equation. This is done by using a variety of methods such as separation of variables, integration, and substitution.

3. What is the specific method to solve the given differential equation, y`=1/(6e^y-2x)?

The method to solve this specific differential equation would depend on its type and form. One possible approach is to use separation of variables, where the equation is rearranged so that all terms with y are on one side and all terms with x are on the other side. Then, the equation can be integrated to solve for y.

4. Can differential equations be solved without knowing the initial conditions?

No, the initial conditions are necessary to fully solve a differential equation. These conditions provide specific values for the function and its derivatives at a certain point, which are needed to determine the unique solution to the equation.

5. What are some real-life applications of differential equations?

Differential equations have numerous applications in various fields such as physics, engineering, economics, and biology. They are used to model and analyze natural phenomena, solve optimization problems, and predict behavior of systems over time.

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