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Another simple truss problem

  1. May 26, 2009 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    Hi guys,
    Below is a picture of what I am given. I need to calculate the support reaction forces and the stress in each truss. Having problems resolving the offset weight.

    2. Relevant equations
    All the supports are pin supports. Any ideas how to get started?


    3. The attempt at a solution
    Can't even get started as i have too many variables compared with equations to initially find the Rx Ry support forces.
     

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  2. jcsd
  3. May 26, 2009 #2
    Anyone?

    Is the noly way to do it is to remove one of the supports?
     
  4. May 26, 2009 #3
    I hope you realize that we don't get to see the picture until it is approved. It usually takes a good part of the day.
    If you are in a big rush, you could upload the picture to an image server and post the link.
     
  5. May 27, 2009 #4
    How long does it take to get approved?
     
  6. May 27, 2009 #5
    ....
     
  7. May 27, 2009 #6
    Hey guys,
    Just bumping my question as I hope the pic is up now.
    Any suggestions would be helpfull, will try to answer any others too.
     
  8. May 27, 2009 #7
    The picture is now approved.

    It does not, however, show the elastic properties, E and A, nor the geometric dimensions required to do the calculations. I assume the horizontal beam is infinitely rigid.

    To be able to make discussions, I have named the joints A, B, C, D, E, F, starting from left to right, and where the load 21 Kg is applied at A.
    statics.jpg

    Could you please supply the member properties (E and A) as well as details of the geometry?

    From the diagram, it does not look like it is a linear problem, because the point D can have a transversal displacement, which has a non-linear relationship with the axial forces of CD and DE.

    For the solution, you can proceed as follows:
    Unknowns: 4 displacement, Bx, By, Dx, Dy
    Equations:
    Equilibrium of forces at points B and D
    Axial force on member BC
    Moments of forces and reactions.

    If BD is supposed to be rigid, a large value of A and/or E must be applied to member BD.

    Hope this will give you a kickstart.

    Could you also tell me if your current course is on indeterminate structures?
     
  9. May 27, 2009 #8
    Ok cool. yeah here is a bit more info.

    AD is just to show that the force due to weight is not directly on B. It's not rigid or attatched to member BD (sorry it looks like it in the picture).

    CF=1m
    EF=1.5m
    CE=1.4m
    CB=1.6m
    AD=3m

    It's supposed to be a truss problem, just finding the reaction forces in supports and internal truss forces. Not sure about deflection.
    E is 20GPa and A is 111mm2.

    Looking for method of joints + method of sections?
    I'm getting a trivial result with a matrix inverse unidentified solution of 6 equations and 6 unkowns. zzzz.
     
  10. May 27, 2009 #9
    Is E on a horizontal slider? If it is, then the structure is unstable.
    If it is not, the joint F and members CF and EF are not stressed, i.e. the given load has no effect on them.
    Also, for the structure to be stable, the rigid beam AD is required. Otherwise point B will spin counter-clockwise around C.
     
  11. May 27, 2009 #10
    If we disregard non-linear effects, and the members CF and EF, then you are left with the structure ABCDE where C and E are pinned.

    If CDE is rigid, then the reactions at C and E are vertical.
    You can calculate these vertical reactions by taking moments about E and C respectively.
     
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