Approximating ballistic motion.

In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of tmax, the time at which a ballistic projectile reaches maximum height. The equation for motion is integrated and a resulting equation for tmax is given. However, when m >> b*tmax, the expected result of tmax = u/g is not obtained. By applying a series expansion, it is shown that tmax does indeed equal u/g.
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Tschew
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Hi!

I'm slightly stuck with an approximation of tmax, the time at which a ballistic projectile reaches maximum height. (projectile shot straigh upwards, no x motion)

So, by integrating the motion equation

m * dv/dt = -mg -bv

(where b is an air drag constant) I've created:

v(t) = (u + mg/b)*e^(-bt/m) - mg/b

which at tmax (t at maximum height) must be zero, which then gives:

tmax = (-m/b) ln [ (mg/b) / (mg/b + u) ]

where u is the initial velocity in y

Now when m >> b*tmax, tmax = u/g , howver, I can't get that!

all I get is (using e^x = 1 + x + x^2/2! +...):

tmax = u / (mgb/bm + ub/m)

thanks for any help!

-tschew
 
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Tschew said:
tmax = (-m/b) ln [ (mg/b) / (mg/b + u) ] *

where u is the initial velocity in y

Now when m >> b*tmax, tmax = u/g , howver, I can't get that!

all I get is (using e^x = 1 + x + x^2/2! +...):

-tschew


You can rewrite your equation labelled with "*" as

[tex] \exp(\frac{t_{max}b}{m})= 1+\frac{ub}{mg}[/tex]

As the exponent is much less than 1, you can apply the series expansion and stop at the linear term.

[tex] \exp(\frac{t_{max}b}{m})=1+\frac{t_{max}b}{m}[/tex]

[tex] 1+\frac{t_{max}b}{m} = 1 + \frac {ub}{mg}\rightarrow t_{max}=u/g
[/tex]

ehild
 
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Thank you.

Thanks for the reply. I noticed the minus sign in the ln() expression myself yesterday and got the result :eek:)

-Tschew
 

What is ballistic motion?

Ballistic motion refers to the movement of an object that is only affected by gravity and air resistance, and not by any other external forces.

What factors affect the trajectory of a ballistic object?

The trajectory of a ballistic object is affected by its initial velocity, launch angle, air resistance, and the gravitational force of the Earth.

How is ballistic motion calculated?

Ballistic motion is calculated using mathematical equations that take into account the initial velocity, launch angle, air resistance, and gravitational force to determine the trajectory of the object.

What is the difference between a ballistic object and a non-ballistic object?

A ballistic object is only affected by gravity and air resistance, whereas a non-ballistic object can be affected by other external forces such as friction and applied forces.

Why is approximating ballistic motion important?

Approximating ballistic motion is important in understanding the movement of objects in fields such as physics and engineering. It also allows for the prediction and control of the trajectory of projectiles, such as in sports or military applications.

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