Approximating SHM Homework: F_\theta=-mg\theta

In summary, the conversation discusses the approximation of the restoring force and period of a pendulum, which can be expressed as an infinite series. This is used to solve for the period of a large amplitude pendulum and can be found in equation 7 of the given link. There is some confusion about the variables \alpha and \vartheta, but it is clarified that \alpha is the initial angle while \vartheta varies between -\alpha and +\alpha.
  • #1
Karol
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Homework Statement


The restoring force of a pendulum is [itex]F_\theta=-mg\sin\theta[/itex]
and is approximated to [itex]F_\theta=-mg\theta[/itex].
The period is [itex]T=2\pi\sqrt{\frac{L}{g}}[/itex], but can be expressed as the infinite series:
[tex]T=2\pi\sqrt{\frac{L}{g}}\left( 1+\frac{1^2}{2^2}\sin^2\frac{\theta}{2}+\frac{1^2}{2^2}\frac{3^2}{4^2}\sin^4\frac{\theta}{2}+...\right)[/tex]
What is this approximation and of what? i don't think it's a Maclaurin series.

Homework Equations


Maclaurin series of sin(x):
[tex]\sin(x)\cong 1-\frac{x^3}{3!}+\frac{x^5}{5!}-\frac{x^7}{7!}...[/tex]
 
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  • #2
Karol said:

Homework Statement


The restoring force of a pendulum is [itex]F_\theta=-mg\sin\theta[/itex]
and is approximated to [itex]F_\theta=-mg\theta[/itex].
The period is [itex]T=2\pi\sqrt{\frac{L}{g}}[/itex], but can be expressed as the infinite series:
[tex]T=2\pi\sqrt{\frac{L}{g}}\left( 1+\frac{1^2}{2^2}\sin^2\frac{\theta}{2}+\frac{1^2}{2^2}\frac{3^2}{4^2}\sin^4\frac{\theta}{2}+...\right)[/tex]
What is this approximation and of what? i don't think it's a Maclaurin series.

Homework Equations


Maclaurin series of sin(x):
[tex]\sin(x)\cong 1-\frac{x^3}{3!}+\frac{x^5}{5!}-\frac{x^7}{7!}...[/tex]
When solving for the period of a large amplitude pendulum you get a nasty elliptical integral. You can express that integral in terms of a series, the first term being the familiar period for small amplitudes.

Try this for more details: LARGE-ANGLE MOTION OF A SIMPLE PENDULUM
 
  • #3
Change of variables

In the link you gave me:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...M&txt=LARGE-ANGLE MOTION OF A SIMPLE PENDULUM
there is equation 7:
[tex]\sin(\varphi)=\frac{\sin(\vartheta/2)}{\sin(\alpha/2)}[/tex]
It says [itex]\alpha[/itex] changes from 0 to 2[itex]\pi[/itex] for a full oscillation.
First, when [itex]\alpha=0[/itex] then the denominator=0
Secondly, [itex]\alpha[/itex] changes from [itex]-\vartheta[/itex] to [itex]+\vartheta[/itex]
so [itex]\sin(\varphi)[/itex] changes from [itex]-\varphi[/itex] [itex]+\varphi[/itex]
 
  • #4
Karol said:
It says [itex]\alpha[/itex] changes from 0 to 2[itex]\pi[/itex] for a full oscillation.
I believe it is [itex]\varphi[/itex] that ranges from 0 to 2[itex]\pi[/itex] for a full oscillation, not [itex]\alpha[/itex]. [itex]\alpha[/itex] is the initial angle of the pendulum, when released from rest.
 
  • #5
Right, [itex]\varphi[/itex] ranges from 0 to 2[itex]\pi[/itex]
[itex]\vartheta[/itex] is the initial angle
 
  • #6
Karol said:
Right, [itex]\varphi[/itex] ranges from 0 to 2[itex]\pi[/itex]
[itex]\vartheta[/itex] is the initial angle
No, as Doc Al posted, [itex]\alpha[/itex] is the initial angle. [itex]\vartheta[/itex] varies between [itex]-\alpha[/itex] and [itex]+\alpha[/itex].
 
  • #7
Maybe, i don't remember the details now
 

1. What is SHM and how does it relate to the equation F_\theta=-mg\theta?

SHM stands for Simple Harmonic Motion, which is a type of periodic motion where the restoring force is directly proportional to the displacement from equilibrium. The equation F_\theta=-mg\theta represents the restoring force (F) acting on an object due to its displacement (θ) from equilibrium, in the case of a simple pendulum under the influence of gravity (g).

2. How is the equation F_\theta=-mg\theta derived?

The equation F_\theta=-mg\theta is derived from Hooke's Law, which states that the force applied to a spring is directly proportional to the amount of stretch or compression of the spring. This law can be applied to other systems, such as a pendulum, by considering the restoring force (F) as the weight of the object (m) multiplied by the acceleration due to gravity (g) and the displacement (θ) from equilibrium.

3. Can the equation F_\theta=-mg\theta be used for other systems besides a simple pendulum?

Yes, the equation F_\theta=-mg\theta can be used for any system that exhibits SHM, such as a mass on a spring or a mass attached to a rotating wheel. However, the value of g may need to be adjusted for different systems, depending on the strength of the gravitational force.

4. How is this equation used to approximate SHM?

This equation is used to approximate SHM by calculating the restoring force on an object at different points along its path of motion. By plotting these values, a sinusoidal curve can be generated, which represents the motion of the object. This curve can be used to determine the amplitude, period, and other characteristics of the SHM.

5. Are there any limitations to using the equation F_\theta=-mg\theta to approximate SHM?

Yes, there are some limitations to using this equation. It assumes that the system is in a vacuum with no air resistance, and that the mass of the object is concentrated at a single point. Real-world systems may have other forces acting on them, such as friction or air resistance, which can affect the accuracy of this approximation.

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