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Homework Help: Archimedes' principle

  1. Jan 4, 2005 #1
    A ball of mass m_b and volume V is lowered on a string into a fluid of density p_f . Assume that the object would sink to the bottom if it were not supported by the string. What is the tension T in the string when the ball is fully submerged but not touching the bottom? Express your answer (T) in terms of the given quantities and g , the acceleration due to gravity.


    Although the fact may be obscured by the presence of a liquid, the basic condition for equilibrium still holds: The net force on the ball must be zero.

    Here are the steps that I went through:
    Compute the mass m_f of the fluid displaced by the object when it is entirely submerged.
    Express your answer in terms of p_f, v, m_b, and g.

    m_f = p_f*V

    f_buoyant = p_f* V * g

    How do I get from here to finding the tension?

    Thanks.
     
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  3. Jan 4, 2005 #2

    Doc Al

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    As the problem states: The net force on the ball must be zero. So what are the forces acting on the ball? (Hint: Three forces act on the ball.)
     
  4. Jan 4, 2005 #3
    Tension of string, m_b*g, and F_buoyancy?
     
  5. Jan 4, 2005 #4

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    Right. Now write the equation that relates them and solve for Tension.
     
  6. Jan 4, 2005 #5
    So these 3 forces must add up to 0?
    I don't think this is right (both the signs and equation I'm unsure of), but would it be

    F_T + m_b*g + p_f* V * g (F_buo) = 0, where p_f = m_f/V

    Then isolate F_T to solve for the answer?
     
  7. Jan 4, 2005 #6

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    Yes, the forces add to 0. But don't forget that forces are vectors: Direction matters! (Which way do the forces act?) Be sure to use a consistent sign convention: For example, let forces acting upward be positive; downward, negative. Then rewrite your equation.
     
  8. Jan 4, 2005 #7
    The answer for F_T does not depend on m_f. What am I supposed to do now?

    What I did

    F_t - (m_b*g) + f_buo = 0

    F_T = (m_b*g) - F_buo , F_buo = g*m_f

    F_T = g(m_b - m_f)

    but this is wrong
     
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2005
  9. Jan 4, 2005 #8
    Never mind; got it! Thanks.
     
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