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If all fundamental particles are zero dimensional, are atoms empty space? And they are zero dimensional, does that mean that we don't exist?
Whoever told you that all fundamental particles are of zero dimension has mislead you. Electrons are, but others are not. Atoms are something like 99.99+% empty.Nav said:If all fundamental particles are zero dimensional, are atoms empty space?
I don't know about you, but I'm really confident that I exist I'm also pretty sure that @Drakkith exists because I just can't see a figment of my imagination having made up being from TexasAnd they are zero dimensional, does that mean that we don't exist?
Nav said:If all fundamental particles are zero dimensional, are atoms empty space? And they are zero dimensional, does that mean that we don't exist?
phinds said:Whoever told you that all fundamental particles are of zero dimension has mislead you. Electrons are, but others are not. Atoms are something like 99.99+% empty.
phinds said:I don't know about you, but I'm really confident that I exist I'm also pretty sure that @Drakkith exists because I just can't see a figment of my imagination having made up being from Texas
But atoms are still just empty space right?Drakkith said:Obviously we exist, otherwise we wouldn't be here to have this conversation (philosophical aspects of this issue aside).
The size of a fundamental particle is difficult to talk about. If you probe an electron at smaller and smaller distances, you eventually find that the electron is better thought of as being 'smeared out' across some volume of space.
As far as I know, all fundamental particles are routinely said to have zero size, not just electrons.
I'm just a figment of your fig Newtons imagination.
Hm ... I guess I've misunderstood that all these years. My misunderstanding was based on the common statement that atoms are 99.99%+ empty space. If everything's a point particle, then EVERYTHING is empty space. That doesn't seem to make sense.Drakkith said:As far as I know, all fundamental particles are routinely said to have zero size, not just electrons..
No, atoms are made up of protons and neutrons and electrons. The electrons have mass but are dimensionless. The protons and neutrons have mass and are not dimensionless.Nav said:But atoms are still just empty space right?
Nav said:But atoms are still just empty space right?
phinds said:Hm ... I guess I've misunderstood that all these years. My misunderstanding was based on the common statement that atoms are 99.99%+ empty space. If everything's a point particle, then EVERYTHING is empty space. That doesn't seem to make sense.
Nav said:If all fundamental particles are zero dimensional, are atoms empty space? And they are zero dimensional, does that mean that we don't exist?
Well I would think it should be fairly easy for you to conclude as a matter of observation that you do in fact exist.Nav said:If all fundamental particles are zero dimensional, are atoms empty space? And they are zero dimensional, does that mean that we don't exist?
Drakkith said:Indeed. That's why I prefer to think of an atom as being filled with various fields and such of the smeared out electrons, protons, etc..
Nav said:If all fundamental particles are zero dimensional, are atoms empty space?
There is no such thing as empty space. And you can argue there are no particles either. There are only fields and their schaumkommen(appearances) as Schroedinger put it.Nav said:If all fundamental particles are zero dimensional, are atoms empty space? And they are zero dimensional, does that mean that we don't exist?
The Zero-Dimensional Particle Theory is a scientific theory that explains the behavior and characteristics of particles at the atomic level. It proposes that at the smallest scale, particles have no dimension and can occupy a single point in space. This theory helps us understand the fundamental building blocks of matter and their interactions.
The Zero-Dimensional Particle Theory differs from other theories, such as the Bohr model or the electron cloud model, in that it does not assign any dimension to particles. Instead, it suggests that particles are infinitesimal points with no physical size.
This theory has significant implications for our understanding of the universe. It suggests that the building blocks of matter have no physical size, challenging our traditional concept of matter. It also has implications for quantum mechanics and the behavior of particles on a subatomic level.
The Zero-Dimensional Particle Theory is closely related to the concept of empty space. It suggests that particles are essentially empty space, with no physical size or dimension. This theory challenges our perception of what constitutes matter and raises questions about the nature of space itself.
There is a significant amount of evidence that supports the Zero-Dimensional Particle Theory. This includes observations from particle accelerators, quantum experiments, and the behavior of subatomic particles. Additionally, this theory is consistent with other scientific principles, such as the uncertainty principle and the wave-particle duality of particles.