GR Unphysical Aspects: Time Protection Hypothesis & Riemannian Curvature

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In summary, the conversation touches on various aspects of physics and the theory of relativity, particularly in relation to closed timelike curves (CTCs) and the construction of the Riemann curvature in general relativity. It discusses the opinions surrounding the existence and physicality of CTCs and the use of closed curves in defining the curvature tensor. Alternatives to this method are also mentioned.
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As history is Newton considered infinite speeds of his gravitational force as unphysical, out of which Einstein constructed relativity.

In special relativity moving faster than c induces an imaginary space-time and is hence ruled out.

My question is regardin towards GR, in which Gödel showed that in rotating universes solutions to GR closed time-like loops could exist.

Are those also ruled out by physics community due to the time protection hypothesis ?

I suppose yes. Then by looking at the construction of GR, is it that the construction of the Riemannian curvature transport is made out of parallel transporting a vector along a closed curve ?

This seems unphysical to build a theory out of closed loops in space-time.

So how could other calculations of the curvature be made on helix-like curves ? I'm looking for documents about this particular point.

Thanks.
 
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To define the curvature tensor completely, you must use curves that have nothing to do with histories of particles, e.g. spacelike curves, and curves that mix timelike and spacelike, including having sections with different time orientations. This has nothing whatsoever to do with whether the manifold admits closed timelike curves.

As to whether CTCs are unphysical, that is ultimately a matter of opinion. I think they are, others will disagree.
 
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by looking at the construction of GR, is it that the construction of the Riemannian curvature transport is made out of parallel transporting a vector along a closed curve ?

A closed curve, but not a closed timelike curve. The closed curve will not be timelike everywhere. In fact it won't even have to be a smooth curve; the typical examples used in GR textbooks are closed loops composed of distinct segments, which are not smooth at the corners where different segments meet.
 
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jk22 said:
Then by looking at the construction of GR, is it that the construction of the Riemannian curvature transport is made out of parallel transporting a vector along a closed curve ?

This seems unphysical to build a theory out of closed loops in space-time.

Another approach could probably be taken to define the Riemann curvature.
Rather than thinking about parallel-transport around a loop,
think about parallel-transporting from event A to event B along two different paths.

In classical mechanics, the analogue is
rather than computing the work done around a loop,
compute the work done from point A to point B along two different paths.
 

1. What is the Time Protection Hypothesis in relation to GR Unphysical Aspects?

The Time Protection Hypothesis is a concept in General Relativity (GR) that suggests that time is a fundamental aspect of the universe and cannot be altered or manipulated. It argues against the idea of time travel or changing the direction of time, as these actions would violate the laws of physics.

2. How does the Riemannian Curvature relate to GR Unphysical Aspects?

The Riemannian Curvature is a mathematical concept that is used in GR to describe the curvature of spacetime. It is a key component in understanding the unphysical aspects of GR, as it helps to explain how gravity affects the shape of the universe and the flow of time.

3. Are there any experimental evidence to support the Time Protection Hypothesis?

At this time, there is no direct experimental evidence for the Time Protection Hypothesis. However, it is supported by the fact that all of our current understanding of physics is based on the concept of time being a fundamental aspect of the universe. Any evidence to the contrary would require a major shift in our understanding of the laws of physics.

4. How do scientists address the unphysical aspects of GR in their research?

Scientists often use mathematical models and simulations to explore the unphysical aspects of GR and test different hypotheses. They also continue to conduct experiments and collect data to further our understanding of the laws of physics and how they relate to the unphysical aspects of GR.

5. What are some potential implications of the Time Protection Hypothesis?

If the Time Protection Hypothesis is true, it would have significant implications for our understanding of the universe and our ability to manipulate time. It would also have implications for theories such as time travel and the concept of a multiverse, as these ideas would be incompatible with the idea of time being protected and unchangeable.

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