Solving Trigonometry Equations: Confused about Cos4x?

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In summary, the conversation is about solving the equation cos4x = 1+8cos^4-8cos^2 using the double angle identity and the question of whether cos4x is equal to cos(2x+2x). There is a discussion about different ways to write the equation and finding the correct answer. The solution is to use the known trigonometric formula to simplify the expression down to one involving only cos. There is also a reference to a section in the PF library that could be helpful in understanding the identities needed for solving these types of equations.
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I'm verify some trigonometry equations and am confused about a couple of things. (This is self-study, I'm not in school)

The equation cos4x = 1+8cos^4-8cos^2 can be solved by re-writing as 2(cos2x)^2 -1 and factoring out which yields the correct answer, however based on what I've seen in other double angle identity equations one can re-write cos4x as cos(2x + 2x).

I believe this can be written as [(2cos^2 - 1)(2cos^2-1)] + [(2cos^2-1)(2cos^2-1)], however the answer then comes out to 8cos^4-8cos^2+2. So it's off by "+1".

What about my thinking is flawed? They can't both be correct!

Thanks for your help.

Joe
 
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cos(a+b)=cosacosb-sinasinb ,what are you doing with second one in cos(2x+2x)
 
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I'm obviously not writing the formula out correctly since the answer is not the same. I was just solving how I'v written it out [(2cos^2 - 1)(2cos^2-1)] + [(2cos^2-1)(2cos^2-1)]

Is there another way to write out cos(4x) as cos(2x+2x) instead of cos 2[(cos2x)^2-1] and have the answer come out to be 1+ 8cos^2x - 8cos^2x?

How do you add cos(2x + 2x)? or does cos4x not equal cos(2x+2x)?

Thanks,
Joe
 
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This section of PF library would be of help to you. It lists all the identities you need.
 
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jtart2 said:
I'm obviously not writing the formula out correctly since the answer is not the same. I was just solving how I'v written it out [(2cos^2 - 1)(2cos^2-1)] + [(2cos^2-1)(2cos^2-1)]

Is there another way to write out cos(4x) as cos(2x+2x) instead of cos 2[(cos2x)^2-1] and have the answer come out to be 1+ 8cos^2x - 8cos^2x?

How do you add cos(2x + 2x)? or does cos4x not equal cos(2x+2x)?

Thanks,
Joe
cos(2x + 2x) ≠ cos(2x) + cos(2x)

You appear to be assuming that they are equal !
 
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How do you add cos(2x + 2x)? or does cos4x not equal cos(2x+2x)?

Yes, and to expand do what user andrien suggested.
[tex] cos(2x + 2x) = cos2xcos2x -sin2xsin2x = cos^2 2x - sin^2 2x[/tex] and use known trigonometric formula to simplify the expression down to one involving only [itex] cos, [/itex] as required.
 
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jtart2 said:
Is there another way to write out cos(4x) as cos(2x+2x) instead of cos 2[(cos2x)^2-1]

[tex]\cos(4x)\neq \cos\left(2(\cos^2(2x)-1)\right)[/tex]

Because you already know that [itex]\cos(2x)=2cos^2(x)-1[/itex] hence [itex]2\cos^2(2x)-1=\cos(4x)[/itex] (do you see how that works?) and so finally, if we plug this expression into
[tex]\cos\left(2(\cos^2(2x)-1)\right)[/tex]
we will have that equivalent to
[tex]\cos\left(2\cos^2(2x)-2)\right)[/tex][tex]=\cos\left(2\cos^2(2x)-1+1)\right)[/tex][tex]=\cos\left(\cos(4x)+1)\right)[/tex]
 

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