Area 51 "invasion"

jim mcnamara
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(probably) Delusional people have signed up in droves to go en masse into Area 51. As a joke I hope.

https://www.livescience.com/65899-area-51-summer-raid.htmlhttps://www.sltrib.com/news/nation-world/2019/07/13/half-million-people/
This place is also called Nevada Test Site. It is the place conspiracy theorists deem to be the hiding place of alien remains, among other artifacts. Security there is not going to let anybody in and if some idiots manage to get in further they could end up with trespass charges and jail time.

The Extraterrestrial Highway (ET trail) was named by the State Legislature in 1996 as a way to increase tourism. The highway runs along one side of Area 51.

Anybody who Geocaches probably knows about it. The "ET trail" starts there and goes one for miles and miles - a so-called Power Trail - of thousands of caches. The longest power trail in the world.

Suggestive picture and a geocacher's blog:

https://www.geocaching.com/blog/2013/11/116-geocaches-an-hour-and-aliens/
So the tourism part worked, sort of. And for a nerdy type like me geocaching it is good outdoor fun. BTW, I have no intention of doing the ET power trail.
 

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berkeman
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LOL. IMO, the government should have some fun with this. They could roll a bunch of 18-wheelers in and out of the base in the next month or two, saying that they are dispersing some materiel from Area 51 to other bases for security reasons. In reality they would be bringing IN movie props to fill the hangars with alien stuff (and driving away from the base empty).

Then, when the masses descend on the base, let them "discover" what is there, and take pictures of their faces. Then walk around among them and keep flashing the "flashy things" from Men In Black at them.

o0)
 
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The flashy thing is a nice touch......
 
Klystron
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I worked all over Nevada Test Site mid 1970's -- and beyond. No alien technology but tons of fascinating human tech. My respect for post-WWII physicists and engineers grew every time we modified old tech to perform new roles never envisioned in the original requirements.

I hope visitors to our beautiful desert remember to remain hydrated. Symptoms of dehydration include mental instability and loss of reasoning ability; so, could be hard to tell. :wink:
 
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I was in a book store today and was talking to the clerk. She mentioned that her son had informed her that he was going on this run. Being as he was still a minor, her response was "No, you're not. "
I wonder how many of those people who signed up are in the same situation; with reality interfering with their plans to attend.
 
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What is it about American that seems to breed all manner of strange people and beliefs and conspiracy theories. Is it the air , water or beer?. Never in my years have i seen,heard so much drivel and nonsense spouted from any other nations.
i know there are also conspiracy nutters all around the world but the Yanks seem to be a great breeding ground for this stuff. Is it cos you have Hollywood feeding this stuff into young minds?
This "invasion" of Area 51 should be interesting if as they signs suggest deadly force could be used. Might make Waco look like a picnic.
 
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What is it about American that seems to breed all manner of strange people and beliefs and conspiracy theories. Is it the air , water or beer?. Never in my years have i seen,heard so much drivel and nonsense spouted from any other nations.
Freedom of speech.
 
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i know there are also conspiracy nutters all around the world but the Yanks seem to be a great breeding ground for this stuff. Is it cos you have Hollywood feeding this stuff into young minds?
We don't have an aristocracy, so our tabloids have more room for conspiracy theories.
 
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I expect that most of the people signing up for this are just cases of bluster. BS not expected to be fulfilled.
I would be surprised if 5,000 show up.
 
Tom.G
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Freedom of speech.
... and boredom
... and complacency
... and parts of our brains work faster than the rational parts!:rolleyes:
 
Ibix
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I would be surprised if 5,000 show up.
I hope it's rather less. If that many show up, how many are going to get into trouble? Quite apart from legal issues and armed guards, the Nevada desert isn't exactly forgiving to casual visitors from what I understand.
 
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I hope it's rather less
I know. How many willing subjects do the aliens really need to experiment upon.
"Why go to them - let them come to us!"
 
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in droves
Apparently 1.4M people have RSVP'ed.

A long trek through the desert followed by a dash into an area guarded by men with large guns. What could possibly go wrong?
 
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I never understood this fascination with aliens, it's like when people see UFO's. "I don't know what it is, therefore it must be aliens." As Neil De Grasse said in a you tube video after the "I don't know what it is," part is when your thought process should be stopping, not going on to invent stuff.

The human mind is a curious thing, it seems to have "to have an answer" to some questions......when there is no suitable or logical explanation it seems quite happy to make something up just so that it can consider the question answered.
 
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I think for the most part the people who signed that petition don’t believe area 51 hosts aliens but rather they are doing it for the memes.
 
berkeman
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This seems to be a much better party than the one planned in the hot desert.
From the link:

However, the event isn’t simply a joke, as Carnoval explained that he is “trying to assemble live music, food and entertainment."

"Attendees must dress as Spongebob characters or pirates. I'll provide the boats and scuba gear. Just bring weed and a lot of beer and whiskey," he added.
 
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As Neil De Grasse said
I can't find it right now, but I remember Carl Sagan talking about Von Daniken, something like this:

"He attributes anything he doesn't understand to aliens. Since he understands nothing, he sees evidence of aliens everywhere."
 
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We don't have an aristocracy, so our tabloids have more room for conspiracy theories.
Maybe. But then again, the US does have established families that are sort of like an aristocracy (think of the Boston Brahmins, the Southern planter elites, the Roosevelt's, the Kennedy's, etc.).

And the US does have Hollywood celebrities that substitute for aristocracy in the tabloids.
 
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I can't find it right now, but I remember Carl Sagan talking about Von Daniken, something like this:

"He attributes anything he doesn't understand to aliens. Since he understands nothing, he sees evidence of aliens everywhere."
Google finds: Playboy: Well, we asked Sagan about it. He called it a common misconception. He added , as an opinion of your work: "The kindest thing I can say about Von Daniken is that he ignores the science of archeology. Every time he sees something he can't understand, he attributes it to extraterrestrial intelligence, and since he understands almost nothing, he sees evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence all over the planet."
 
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I told you, I liked the magazine for the articles :woot:
 
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From the link:
trying to assemble live music, food and entertainment. ... Just bring weed and a lot of beer and whiskey,
Where do I sign up? :devil:
 
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A long trek through the desert followed by a dash into an area guarded by men with large guns. What could possibly go wrong?
Good question. Anybody want to go halves on the rental of a Hummer and costs of all the sunblock and bottled water it can carry? And a credit card machine.

(Feeling a tad cynical this evening).
 

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