Solving for Area of a Given Curve: sqrt(|x|) + sqrt(|y|) = 1

In summary, the conversation discussed finding the area of a curve given by sqrt(|x|) + sqrt(|y|) = 1 and drawing the area. Guidance was given to try a fitting value of k in the parametric equations x = r*cos(t)^k and y = r*sin(t)^k. The attempt at a solution involved using x = r*cos(t)^4 and y = r*sin(t)^4 and calculating the integral, but there was confusion about the resulting plot. The expert suggested using the actual x,y values and not their square roots for the parametric plot.
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soofjan
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Homework Statement


Find the area, whose edge is given by the following curve:
sqrt(|x|) + sqrt(|y|) = 1
Also, draw the area.
Guidance: try x = r*cos(t)^k, y = r*sin(t)^k for a fitting k.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I tried:
x = r*cos(t)^4, y = r*sin(t)^4
From the curve equation, I get that: sqrt(r)=1. So:
0 [tex]\leq[/tex] r [tex]\leq[/tex] 1
0 [tex]\leq[/tex] t [tex]\leq[/tex] 2*pi
|J| = 4r*|sin(t)^3*cos(t)^3|.
Since I have an absolute value as the integrand, I calculate the integral of t from 0 to pi/2, and multiply the result by 4. The final answer is 2/3.

I believe that my transformation is wrong, because when I try to draw it via Wolfram, it gives me a circle, but it is supposed to look like an astroid.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
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soofjan said:

Homework Statement


Find the area, whose edge is given by the following curve:
sqrt(|x|) + sqrt(|y|) = 1
Also, draw the area.
Guidance: try x = r*cos(t)^k, y = r*sin(t)^k for a fitting k.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I tried:
x = r*cos(t)^4, y = r*sin(t)^4
From the curve equation, I get that: sqrt(r)=1. So:
0 [tex]\leq[/tex] r [tex]\leq[/tex] 1
0 [tex]\leq[/tex] t [tex]\leq[/tex] 2*pi
|J| = 4r*|sin(t)^3*cos(t)^3|.
Since I have an absolute value as the integrand, I calculate the integral of t from 0 to pi/2, and multiply the result by 4. The final answer is 2/3.

I believe that my transformation is wrong, because when I try to draw it via Wolfram, it gives me a circle, but it is supposed to look like an astroid.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

That all looks ok to me. Except that my plot doesn't look like a circle. What are you plotting?
 
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I tried to polar plot the following on Wolfram:
sqrt(|r*cos(t)^4|) + sqrt(|r*sin(t)^4|) = 1
r=0..1, t=0..2*pi
 
  • #4
soofjan said:
I tried to polar plot the following on Wolfram:
sqrt(|r*cos(t)^4|) + sqrt(|r*sin(t)^4|) = 1
r=0..1, t=0..2*pi

I'm not sure what that would mean to Wolfram. What you want to plot is the set of all (x,y) SUCH THAT sqrt(|x|)+sqrt(|y|)=1. I.e. parametric plot x(t)=cos(t)^4, y(t)=sin(t)^4, for t in [0,pi/2], the actual x,y values, not their square roots.
 
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I see your point. Thanks again.
 

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