Can You Find the Area of an Irregular Square with Given Side Lengths?

In summary, the conversation discusses how to solve for the area of an irregular square, with the example of a quadrilateral with given side lengths. The formula for finding the area of an irregular quadrilateral is provided, but it is noted that more information, such as angles, is needed to get an accurate answer. The conversation also mentions the possibility of inscribing the shape in a circle and the importance of considering the shape's constraints. The conversation concludes with a note on using approximations to find the area.
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stglyde
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Hi,

How do you solve for the area of irregular square. What's the formula? For example. A square has the following 4 sides:

side a: 11.83 meters
side b: 38.74 meters
side c: 12.00 meters
side d: 36.02 meters

What is the total area? Thanks.
 
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  • #2
Well, it is not a square, and you need to know the angles.

I guess it's trying to be a rectangle if a is opposite c, and the angles are as close as possible to right-angles.
Then the shape will cover the maximum possible area for the sides - this what you mean?
Or do you mean any old tetragon?
http://www.mathopenref.com/tetragon.html
 
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The area of an irregular quadrilateral is

[tex]A= \sqrt{(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)(s-d)-abcd\cdot\cos^2{\frac{\alpha +\gamma}{2}}}[/tex]

where a,b,c,d are the sides. s is the semi-perimeter and [itex]\alpha[/itex] and [itex]\gamma[/itex] are any two opposite angles.
 
  • #4
@Blandongstein: awesome first post, welcome to PF.
Unfortunately we are not supplied with any angles ... so more information is needed from stglyde.

I was intrigued by the description as a "irregular square" ... another common formulation is to inscribe the tetragon/quadrilateral inside a circle for example. If we know the constraints on how squashed the shape can be, we can answer the question.
 
  • #5
Simon Bridge said:
@Blandongstein: awesome first post, welcome to PF.
Unfortunately we are not supplied with any angles ... so more information is needed from stglyde.

I was intrigued by the description as a "irregular square" ... another common formulation is to inscribe the tetragon/quadrilateral inside a circle for example. If we know the constraints on how squashed the shape can be, we can answer the question.

I just want to get the approximate area and I think it is easy by simply multiplying 12 x 37 or 444 so I'm satisfied. Thanks for the help.
 
  • #6
There you go you see - not enough information was supplied.
The area must be pretty close to rectangular for that approximation to work.
But if, say, the angle between side a and side b is small, then a better approximation would be for a triangle. See why you got such complicated answers?

Oh well. Good luck.
 

What is the formula for finding the area of an irregular square?

The formula for finding the area of an irregular square is to multiply the length and width of the square. So, the formula is A = l * w, where A is the area, l is the length, and w is the width.

Can the area of an irregular square be calculated using the Pythagorean theorem?

No, the Pythagorean theorem is used to calculate the length of the sides of a right triangle. It cannot be used to find the area of an irregular square as it does not have a right angle.

How do you measure the length and width of an irregular square?

The length and width of an irregular square can be measured using a ruler or measuring tape. Start at one corner of the square and measure the distance to the opposite corner, this will give you the length. Then, measure the distance from one side to the opposite side, this will give you the width.

Is it possible for an irregular square to have a negative area?

No, an irregular square cannot have a negative area. Area is always a positive value as it represents the amount of space inside a shape.

How can you find the area of an irregular square if you only know the perimeter?

Unfortunately, it is not possible to find the area of an irregular square if you only know the perimeter. The length and width of an irregular square must be known in order to calculate the area.

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