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a simple question how come

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^{n} k- \sum_{k=1}^{n} (k-1) \not= 1[/tex]

even though i know if you expand it out you would get n, isnt there an arithmetic property of series that relates to this?

thanxs

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a simple question how come

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^{n} k- \sum_{k=1}^{n} (k-1) \not= 1[/tex]

even though i know if you expand it out you would get n, isnt there an arithmetic property of series that relates to this?

thanxs

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The sum of the consecutive sequence of integers starting with 1 is

[tex] \frac{1}{2}n(n+1) [/tex] where n is the last (and largest) member of the sequence.

so from here we can see that the set of any consecutive set of integers has the sum given by

[tex] \frac{1}{2}n_1(n_1+1) - \frac{1}{2}n_2(n_2+1) [/tex], combining:

[tex] \frac{1}{2}(n_1^2 + n_1 - n_2^2 - n_2) [/tex]

The difference of your two series lies in the fact that the first element of the second series is just 0 whereas the first series has 1. The difference between the two sums will always be 'n', which can be shown by realizing that in the above expression the relationship between n1 and n2 is just [itex] n_2 = n_1 - 1 [/tex].

[tex] \frac{1}{2}n(n+1) [/tex] where n is the last (and largest) member of the sequence.

so from here we can see that the set of any consecutive set of integers has the sum given by

[tex] \frac{1}{2}n_1(n_1+1) - \frac{1}{2}n_2(n_2+1) [/tex], combining:

[tex] \frac{1}{2}(n_1^2 + n_1 - n_2^2 - n_2) [/tex]

The difference of your two series lies in the fact that the first element of the second series is just 0 whereas the first series has 1. The difference between the two sums will always be 'n', which can be shown by realizing that in the above expression the relationship between n1 and n2 is just [itex] n_2 = n_1 - 1 [/tex].

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hello there

see i know how to do it through this method

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^{n} k- \sum_{k=1}^{n} (k-1) = \frac{n(n+1)}{2}-\frac{n(n-1)}{2}=n[/tex]

but what i want to know is why cant we do this step?

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^{n} k- \sum_{k=1}^{n} (k-1)= \sum_{k=1}^{n} k-k+1= \sum_{k=1}^{n} 1=1[/tex]

is it that we are not allowed to do subtraction between 2 series, if not are there any cases when we can?

thanxs

see i know how to do it through this method

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^{n} k- \sum_{k=1}^{n} (k-1) = \frac{n(n+1)}{2}-\frac{n(n-1)}{2}=n[/tex]

but what i want to know is why cant we do this step?

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^{n} k- \sum_{k=1}^{n} (k-1)= \sum_{k=1}^{n} k-k+1= \sum_{k=1}^{n} 1=1[/tex]

is it that we are not allowed to do subtraction between 2 series, if not are there any cases when we can?

thanxs

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Of course you can do subtraction between series. But [itex]\sum_{k=1}^n1=n[/itex] and not 1.

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hello there

thanxs for that, i should have remembered something simple like that

thanxs for that, i should have remembered something simple like that

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