Artistic Opinions Please

[Kurdt]

When Zooby posted his portrait of MIH I said i'd been working on a drawing myself recently, and rather than hijack the other thread I thought I'd start a new one for opinions . I hope you guys like it even though the subject is a little sensitive.

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5808/anoraxicpencilfinishedhq1.th.jpg [Broken]

Had to post the thumbnail as it was too big otherwise.

 

[Evo]

It's very good kurdt! The subject is a little :yuck:

You definitely have talent.

 

[Kurdt]

It's very good kurdt! The subject is a little :yuck:

You definitely have talent.

Thanks Evo. The subject of anorexia and more broadly body image is difficult to deal with. I feel greatly ambivolent about the drawing because to me as art it can be considered beautiful yet of course the reality is nothing but and is a devastating illness. I'm kind of drawn to these paradoxical things but I couldn't tell you why.

 

[larkspur]

Nice job Kurdt. I agree that it is hard to appreciate the drawing due to the subject matter.

 

[Kurdt]

Nice job Kurdt. I agree that it is hard to appreciate the drawing due to the subject matter.

Yes that could be a problem and stop people from posting but I say don't be afraid, I posted this after much deliberation to attain some objective criticism.

 

[arildno]

A shockingly intense portrait that also brings up pertinent questions concerning dignity and the need of self-protection for the one suffering from anorexia (I think the posture is very effective in this regard).

Very good, Kurdt.

I hope it is not a self-portrait; if it is, I sincerely wish you will be able to combat the illness successfully.

 

[Kurdt]

A shockingly intense portrait that also brings up pertinent questions concerning dignity and the need of self-protection for the one suffering from anorexia (I think the posture is very effective in this regard).

Very good, Kurdt.

I hope it is not a self-portrait; if it is, I sincerely wish you will be able to combat the illness successfully.

Thanks for the comments arildno. It is not me, it was a fairly famous (or notorious) photograph I took from the web. I am not yet good enough to do something like this without a visual reference.

 

[DaveC426913]

An excellent piece of work Kurdt.

I have some suggestions if you want to practice.

I have always found that drawing from photographs is a very convenient technique - but it has some drawbacks. One of the biggest is the fact that the flattening to a 2D image has already been done for me. I end up drawing an image rather than a subject. Images are are all about light and dark shapes, whereas subjects are about 3D forms with light and shadows on them. I find I need to make a special effort to view the image as if it is a 3D subject.

Make sure your transitions between greys are smooth, and the broad areas aren't evenly smooth across their expanses. Otherwise it looks more like planes than curves.

And ensure that your strokes cross the curves of the form (eg. arms are cylinders, enhance the circumferential dimension, not the length). Strokes that are straight will suggest a flat surface. (Pretend your subject is modeled as a 3D computer graphic and you're drawing the grid. Everything is cylinders.)

Best of luck to ya. Post more!

 

[light_bulb]

why would you draw that?

 

[hypatia]

The scale is very nice, everything seems to be where it should be. The shadeing and shadows seem a bit off. Is the light source overhead? The one dark foot made me wonder.
Keep up the good work, and most importaint, enjoy!

 

[Kurdt]

why would you draw that?

Why not?

Dave and hypatia, wonderful advice! I am definitely going to keep it up and hopefully improve along the way with your sage advice.

 

[light_bulb]

your answering a question with a question, you can just say "because i want to" . i hope I'm not coming off like an ***, I'm just interested in why.

 

[Kurdt]

your answering a question with a question, you can just say "because i want to" . i hope I'm not coming off like an ***, I'm just interested in why.

There are many reasons why people draw things, but I chose to draw this because it means something to me personally. Overall it was just a very powerful image and I like images that evoke strong emotions.

Hopefully it can raise awareness of a particularly deadly illness.

I was answering with a question because I thought you had been offended (which was not my intention) and was wondering why just as you were wondering why I chose it.

 

[light_bulb]

thanks for answering, i wasn't sure of how the tone of my first reply would come off. talking to people is easier when no one has to walk on egg shells. :tongue:

 

[zoobyshoe]

Dave is very good at figures like this and I'd listen to his advise. (I, myself, have never pursued figure drawing.)

I'll mention a couple things, though: 1.) compositionally, I don't see a good reason for having cropped off the back of her head, and, 2.)always shoot for the broadest range of values you can get. Make the darkest areas VERY dark, then you have room to model with every shade of gray up to white. The values here are compressed into a smaller range than is interesting and it's not nearly as easy a drawing to "read" as it would be if the darks were very dark. Staedtler-Mars makes soft pencils down to a 9b which is just about as dark as a soft charcoal pencil.

 

[dontdisturbmycircles]

Yea the back of the head looks too boxy, but overall it looks pretty good in my oppinion. I agree that the subject makes it hard to look at for a long time and appreciate the detail. But this is just my oppinion and art is very oppinionated I would suppose.

Overall it is really good. I hope we get to see more of your artwork soon!

 

[radou]

Kurdt, is this Klimt? Looks familiar, but I don't have the time to look it up.

Nice work. Perhaps I'll post some of my old drawings, since I see drawing is in here lately.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Perhaps I'll post some of my old drawings, since I see drawing is in here lately.

My secret plot to turn PF into an art forum is coming along nicely.

http://op-for.com/mr%20burns.jpg

 

[dontdisturbmycircles]

Lol zoob, it truly does seem as if it is working. :-)

 

[Kurdt]

Kurdt, is this Klimt? Looks familiar, but I don't have the time to look it up.

Nice work. Perhaps I'll post some of my old drawings, since I see drawing is in here lately.

As in Gustav? I don't think so. It was just a photograph I found when researching anorexia.

Well there's been plenty of fantastic tips for my next attempt, especially from Dave and Zoob. Thanks for everyone who expressed their opinion and gave advice.

:rofl: The physics, maths and art forums. Nice combination. Well done zoob!

 

[radou]

My secret plot to turn PF into an art forum is coming along nicely.

One could definitely say so.

:rofl: The physics, maths and art forums. Nice combination. Well done zoob!

You never know. Perhaps an art section arises!