Assassination of The Arab 'Pope'

  1. Hamas pledges war after Yassin slaying;
    http://au.news.yahoo.com/030914/2/lp0x.html
    Now, he was a spiritualist, crippled since birth (a quadraplegic) and confined to a wheelchair. He was a cleric (roughly equivalent to a ‘priest’). The Israelis murdered him with missiles from Apache Attack Helicopters in a dawn raid outside a mosque (roughly equivalent to a “church”) in the Gaza.
    Israel’s most cowardly act, perhaps?
    Nuh. Not even close…its standard fare…
    However, way to start a RELIGIOUS WAR!

    Now the USA is complicit in all of this, in that;
    (1) They Veto all international efforts in the UN to stop this insanity.
    (2) They fund this madness.
    (3) They support this 100%.

    Why do I say this?
    Where does Israel’s Apache Attack Helicopters come from?
    The good old USA, of course!
    http://www.amnestyusa.org/news/2000/israel10192000_2.html
    Why do I say that? Because (a lesson for phatmonkey);
    http://www.sustaincampaign.org/
    “Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
    $134,791,507,200” Refer;
    http://www.washington-report.org/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm

    “4 US Military Aid to Israel Violates US Law
    The US Arms Export Control Act (AECA) strictly forbids the government from giving military assistance to any country that violates internationally recognized human rights. The State Department's 2001 human rights report states: "Israeli security units often used excessive force against Palestinian demonstrators including live fire ... impeded the provision of medical assistance to Palestinian civilians by their strict enforcement of internal closures, which reportedly contributed to at least 32 deaths. Israeli security forces harassed and abused Palestinian pedestrians and drivers who were attempting to pass through the more than 130 Israeli- controlled checkpoints ..." Under the AECA, "the President is required to report to Congress promptly upon the receipt of information that a substantial violation of AECA may have occurred." The US government is fully aware of the Israeli army's human rights violations, as the above quote from the State Department shows. The US government has eroded its own credibility as an impartial mediator by continuing to arm Israel without restriction and allowing these weapons to be used against civilian populations in violation of US law.

    5 US Military Aid to Israel threatens US Security and Global Stability
    US funding of Israel's human rights abuses fuels resentment towards the US. While the rest of the world strongly condemns Israel’s occupation of the Palestinian Territories, our government provides the political, diplomatic and material means for the occupation to continue. Such actions by the US government provoke anti-US sentiment throughout the world, ultimately jeopardizing the safety of people living in the US. The US can build its own security only by gaining the trust and respect of the international community.”

    This act by Israel is different to the Muslim extremists, in so far as, the STATES of Israel and the USA commit these acts. Small groups of radicals commit suicide bombings. Open your eyes people.
     
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  3. What does Yassin being crippled (and not since birth, by the way) have anything to do with his actions? I suggest you do some reading on Yassin's history and the history of the organization he led, Hamas. Yassin was far from being a Pope, he was not a spiritualist (do you even know what the word means?). He and his organization are directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of Israeli citizens. Good luck trying to deny that.

    Why can the US pursue (and eventually kill) Bin Laden? If Bin Laden were crippled, would the US stop its chase after him?
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2004
  4. A Quadraplegic?????

    Yeh, how can a QUADRAPLEGIC be directly responsible, you goose?
     
  5. Re: A Quadraplegic?????

    How is Bin Laden responsible for the events of 9/11? Did he kidnap the airplanes? Was he on one of them? If Bin Laden were in a wheelchair, would that make him less responsible?

    Please refrain from name calling. When one results to personal insults it is clear one has no better arguments than that.
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2004
  6. well even if he was fighting he was right.

    it is his country.

    if somebody forcefully gave away my land and inhabited their people here and supported them for another 50 years i would fight too. even if it was against america.

    my country is small and was always under this or that occupation. the italians, the austrians... the same happened to us after italy exited 1stww. The americans and the others just GAVE them OUR lands in return.

    We got them back, though.
    We managed to get where we are now against seemingly impossible odds.

    that's why chechnyans and palestinians are fighting an apparently loosing battle. but it was wrong what happened to them, more than wrong. Thus their cause is more rightful than any of bush's babbling about bible and the arxis of evil.

    I hope justice will prevail and even more that the hypocrists will get their due. And that i live to see it.
     
  7. May I refer you to the UN Partition Plan from 1947:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_UN_Partition_Plan
    The United Nations gave the Jewish people land for their own country, Israel. Yes, today Israel occuipes more lands than that. However that is only because we were at war with the Arab nations near us, namely Egypt, Sirya, Lebanon and Jordan, in 1967 and 1973. In these wars Israel had won lands that it did not previously had, but that is the nature of war. In 1973 it were the Arab countries that declared war on Israel, and they ended up losing a lot of land. However Israel returned most of these lands, such as the Sinai peninsula which is about 50% of Israel's size as it is today.
     
  8. Don't get me too wrong. I agree that people of Israel deserve their own country, but the way they acquired is called theft in any language in the world.

    Also, the price for someone elses protection is being someone elses pawn.

    And also because it was acquired in this way you have to now cope with a conflict that takes lives every day.

    Perhaps it was a theft out of desperation, and perhaps all should be forgotten by now. But I just hope that you at least now STOP building them houses in their territory, or you want to steal some more while you still can??

    Just don't say it was yours 2000 years ago, because in that case america can let them indians out of reservates and all white americans can go swimming back to europe.
     
  9. The UN gave us both permission to have a country as well as the lands on which to form it. How is that theft?
     
  10. uhm...someone else was living there already?:-)

    Ok. you got your country, the palestinians are mad and they keep attacking you and you have to defend. i understand that.

    build another berlin wall, i understand that.
    but as I see it on the media, your prime minister sharon "stone(d)" is taking like....expansionist moves? that's not like "ok, we're modest and grateful. we UNDERSTAND the palestinians. maybe if just defend and are patient they will understand us, too"

    even the damn wall you won't place entirely on your own ground!

    what can I think of it, what do you think of it?????
     
  11. New settlements are no longer lawfully built, and those that are built against the law are removed. Even settlements that were build back in the days when the government supported them, are now going to be removed. But it takes time, and more importantly manpower. And if we used all of our soldiers to remove some caravans (and that's all those "settlements" are) from the desert, who will be left to protect the citizens? Do you know how many terrorist acts the Israeli police and army prevent each and every day?!
     
  12. Okay.
     
  13. here is what this holy man has instigated, planned, and sanctioned - and this is JUST since there was suppposedly going to be peace from Oslo:

    http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Terrorism/TerrorAttacks.html
    I am wonderfully glad this man is dead! Sadly, I can't say I agree with the way Israel went with this. It doesn't bring them closer to peace, but I find it apalling to all of those who thing of this man as a holy man.
     
  14. Another SCAPEGOAT for Israeli Attrocities

    Wake up phatmonkey!
    You're blaming the Quad for teenagers attacking Israelis in shopping malls with knives?
    For female suicide bombers explodign themselves on buses?

    He threatened these people with a headbutt, I suppose.
    You'd believe anything the Administration/Fox tells you, wouldn't you.
    Nice Zionist propaganda link, by the way...
     
  15. Re: Another SCAPEGOAT for Israeli Attrocities


    Zionist propaganda?!!? Accounts of the deaths and attacks against civilians by the organization this man founded, controlled, and instigated for years, is propaganda?! Wow, WE'VE REALLY gone to the fringe on this one. Must I grab my tinfoil hat to continue?

    So, because the guy is in a wheelchair now, you jsut forget what he created, supported, and directed?! Perhaps you are one of those people that "felt compassion" for Saddam when he was oh so embarassed by having his teeth cleaned on television [zz)]
     
  16. What Did He Create?

    What did he create?
    I really hope you don't say Hamas...
     
  17. Propaganda

    Propaganda for the Western Mind, from the Land of Assassinations…

    Hamas’ military chief was the OTHER co-founder;
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/855742/posts
    http://www.iht.com/articles/88528.html

    Credited as “co-founder” of Hamas, Shiek Ahmed Yassin.
    He was a moderate, and a spiritualist.
    http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/980131/1998013124.html
    He hardly created a TERRORIST NETWORK.

    Well, they said they would get him;
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s878648.htm
    Tried a few times;
    http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/07/1062549070711.html
    http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/10/1063191461098.html

    Australia banned him;
    http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2003/s986516.htm
     
  18. Hey, everyone, take a good close look at this post...and then calm down.

    While I personally would have been a little more specific in condemming the method of the attack, there's nothing in this post that deserves an angry response. Yes, this guy was a scumbag, no Israel shouldn't have fired missles into a populated area to get him. What else is there to say, really?
     
  19. Position Vacant (Pope) - Qualifications Needed

    I beg to differ. A couple of Palestinians I know, have become quite irate…

    Chen posted;
    “Yassin was far from being a Pope, he was not a spiritualist (do you even know what the word means?).”

    I guess, in order to qualify to be a “Pope”, one must order Holy Crusades (to waste all Arab heathens), collaborate with the Nazis, withhold the Third Secret of Fatima etc.
     
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