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Astronaut Backflip

  1. Sep 21, 2010 #1
    This isn't a homework problem or anything, it's just something I'm in a debate with someone about. Theoretically, if an astronaut were left stranded in the center of a room without the ability to push off of anything and without any means of propulsion -- would the astronaut be able to do a 360 degree backflip (or forward flip)?

    Does this movement require gravity, momentum, or the ability to push off of another mass?
     
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  3. Sep 21, 2010 #2

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    I would say that they absolutely could do a flip. They would just need to windmill their arms, and due to conservation of angular momentum, their body would rotate in the opposite direction from their arms.
     
  4. Sep 21, 2010 #3
    Follow up question:

    If a human can do this rotation, does this mean that in theory a spaceship that is moving but not accelerating could choose to start rotating simply by moving its parts correctly? I'm talking about a rotation with little to no effect on direction and without using thrust.
     
  5. Sep 21, 2010 #4

    Andy Resnick

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    I'm also going to say yes, because cats are able to right themselves in free-fall. Whether or not an astronaut is flexible enough to copy the motion, I can't say.

    http://helix.gatech.edu/Classes/ME3760/1998Q3/Projects/Nguyen/

    The site specifically mentions that humans have so far been unable to copy the motion.

    http://web.archive.org/web/19980528...g/publications/technique/1997/2/twisting.html

    Seems to indicate there is a difference between twisting and flipping as well.
     
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  6. Sep 22, 2010 #5

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    Yes if the spaceship were designed to be able to do this. If the ship was one ring inside another ring and could rotate, then the act of rotating would cause the outer ring to spin opposite of the inner ring.
     
  7. Sep 22, 2010 #6

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    Yep. See "reaction wheels" and "control moment gyroscopes" for details. Many satellites use these techniques for attitude control, since they don't need any fuel.
     
  8. Sep 22, 2010 #7
    I wonder if a cat, already knowing it is fully or partially inverted prior to fall, does not start the twist prior to drop/release, thus using the static holder as a twist initiation.
     
  9. Sep 22, 2010 #8
    A very good video of a falling cat. It's clear there is no need to push off the static holder.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t84a0L76ju4&feature=related

    It's all in the way it alternatively adjusts the lengths of its legs:

    1. Bend forward legs + extend backward legs simultaneously,
    2. Twist waist half-way : this right-sides up the torso and head,
    3. Bend rear legs + extend forward legs,
    4. Twist waist half-way : this right-sides up the butt.

    It's all there is to it.
     
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2010
  10. Sep 22, 2010 #9

    Andy Resnick

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    Excellent video! the cat looks like it's counter-rotating about the spine... too cool.
     
  11. Sep 23, 2010 #10

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    That's what Hubble does if memory serves me well.

    I don't think you need to be specially flexible, seems to me that just rotating your arms should do the trick.
     
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