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News ATF disrupts skinhead plot to assassinate Obama

  1. Oct 27, 2008 #1
    Well Fidel Castro, for one, is surprised that Obama is still alive:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081027/ap_on_el_pr/skinhead_plot [Broken]
     
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  3. Oct 27, 2008 #2

    GCT

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    Neo Nazis are not only a group of commonly depraved morons it is perhaps the only group where their ideology itself is utterly contradictory and ridiculously nonsensical.

    Nazism is soley German movement.

    Nazis at one time made a ordered list of which nations are more superior to others - for propaganda purposes of course - the Irish were among the list that were ranked unfavorably relative to Africans. Many of the people who join the Neo Nazis would find that they were included in the subsection of nationalities that were actually ranked close to the Africans.
     
  4. Oct 27, 2008 #3

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    The two "conspirators" are likely idiots with no real chance of getting past SS details and killing Obama. That said, such little pods of idiots could provide cover to very serious people who DO want to assassinate Obama, so the ATF and the SS need to be quite vigilant, lest there be a serious attempt on Obama's life with the cover of requisite "loon" patsies to take the heat.
     
  5. Oct 27, 2008 #4

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    Why the link? Do they describe Afgan insurgents as bearded bombers?
    Those of us who are rapidly becoming 'folically challenged' could be offended.
     
  6. Oct 29, 2008 #5
    this is exactly why it is so heinous that McCain's campaign has been hinting that Obama is an islamic terrorist, it stirs up the crazies.

    and McCain's no pure snowflake himself. see, though he'd supposedly complained about the way the war was being run in Vietnam, he didn't have the guts to do anything about it. truth is, we were waging a war of terror on the Vietnamese people. he wasn't up there taking out strategic targets, they were setting villagers on fire with napalm.

    after the Forrestal incident, McCain actually had a moment of clarity. he saw what the napalm did to his own men and expressed regret over what he was doing to the Vietnamese people. but he kept on doing it anyway, and not much later was a POW. Maverick, indeed.

    mccainnapalmquote.png
     
  7. Oct 29, 2008 #6
    Jesus, lets not have another JFK incident. If Obama was assassinated by one of these groups, do you realize what the uproar would be like in this country?
     
  8. Oct 29, 2008 #7

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    This is what has been in the back of my mind since he was elected candidate. A lot is at stake, let's hope people keep their sanity.
     
  9. Oct 29, 2008 #8

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    He did have the advantage that it was the CIA trying to assassinate him, not a few drunk, inbred morons.

    You mean there might be some sort of anti-Nazi skinhead backlash?
     
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  10. Oct 29, 2008 #9
    Don't count on it. Even if he is not assassinated, People will lose there sanity if someone finds out that Barack might not be eligible to be president because he was might have been born in another country.

    I don't know how Obama acquired such an enormous fanbase equivalently to the fanbase of a major rock band . Do you see at the obama rallys how people scream and cry at his mere presence? Its as if you are at a Beatles Concert. The reactions of obama supporters really gross me out.
     
  11. Oct 29, 2008 #10

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    I thought it was the other chap that was born in a foreign country?
     
  12. Oct 29, 2008 #11

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    Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. McCain was born in Panama.

    The people that keep insisting that Obama was born in a foreign country are either ill-informed, willing to believe anything about Obama (there is surely enough of that!), or deliberately lying to try to try to sway others. The Obama campaign has produced a certified copy of his birth certificate, and surely if there was any doubt about the authenticity of that document, the GOP would be in Honolulu's public records office faster than you can blink. The Republicans have all the bases covered on this issue, but they won't say so publicly, preferring to let the right-wing rumor machine spread their lies.
     
  13. Oct 29, 2008 #12
    I don't know where Obama was born. I am just saying if it turns out to be true that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii, People will go mad! It wasn't the republicans who suggested he was born in Kenya, It was a Democrat name Phillip J berg. He filed a lawsuit against him.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78931

    I really don't know where obama was born nor do I really care. But do you own research first before you jumped to conclusions that right wingers are only suggesting that Obama was born in Kenya. The Judge I think has dimissed his case against obama though
     
  14. Oct 29, 2008 #13

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    ...because the judge looked at the evidence and concluded Obama was born in Hawaii. Case closed.
     
  15. Oct 29, 2008 #14

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    I have talked with a few people who say they won't vote for Obama because they don't want to get him killed.

    Of course, this is really just a nice way to say that "I ain't voting for a black guy".
     
  16. Oct 29, 2008 #15
    Of course you know where Obama was born: Hawaii - JUST LIKE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE SAYS.

    I didn't think anybody would actually be gullible enough to believe that Obama wasn't an American citizen.
     
  17. Oct 29, 2008 #16

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    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html [Broken]
     
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  18. Oct 29, 2008 #17
    you realize grandma is really old, right? you know that old people get confused, sometimes, especially when you've got aggressive loons trying to confuse them, right?
     
  19. Oct 29, 2008 #18

    Ivan Seeking

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    Perhaps Mr. Berg is one of those racist Pennsylvanians that Murtha mentioned.
     
  20. Oct 29, 2008 #19

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    Note that this loon has presented NO evidence. And even if he did, an audio recording of some woman talking is hardly qualified evidence. It is just more nonsense from idiots.
     
  21. Oct 29, 2008 #20

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    I have done the research, and have viewed a certified copy of Obama's Hawaii birth certificate on line. It looks very similar to mine, printed on security paper, and signed and notarized by an official at public records. In Hawaii, they seal and sign the back of the certificate. Public records offices stopped giving out photocopies of birth certificates many years ago, citing the risk of identity theft, which is why they are issued on security paper with many security features to prevent tampering.

    The LA times put this issue to bed some time ago.
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html

    Snopes has call the "born in Kenya" claim false.
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

    The man who brought the frivolous "born in Kenya" lawsuit was a Clinton supporter who was trying to derail Obama during the primaries. Right-wingers were thrilled and have run with his wild claims ever since.
    http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/484146/-/tlhnhg/-/
     
  22. Oct 29, 2008 #21

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    And imagine how surprised they will be when it is revealed that Elvis lives on Mars.

    I know exactly how this happened. The American people see a great leader. And after eight years of Bush, people are desperate for change.
     
  23. Oct 29, 2008 #22

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    Is there any compelling evidence that McCain isn't one of the lizard people?

    Everybody else present at the birth is dead - convenient?
    Has anyone seen his birth certificate? Does it list his father's name as zog the merciless?
    The hosptial, town and entire country were later disposed of to cover up the landing site.
    He claims to be from central america but has a Scottish name!
     
  24. Oct 29, 2008 #23

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    :rofl:

    ...but, isn't McCain's mom still alive? Oh wait - I guess she would be in on it, too!
     
  25. Oct 29, 2008 #24

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    His older half-brother Manuel Noriega was imprisoned as a security measure, too. There is just too much solid evidence to ignore the clues.
     
  26. Oct 29, 2008 #25
    Are you that gullible to believe everything someone tells you without looking at existing evidence. I don't believe something someone has told me, especially coming from a politician's mouth; We know what boy scouts politicians are. *sarcasm*.I never said Obama was not born in Hawaii. But I am not going to automatically debunk claims that say Obama was not born in Hawaii just because there have been exaggerated claims made about obama by right wing talk show hosts. If they evidence is convincing enough, I will be skeptical and open. None of us were there when Obama was born, so we cannot be absolutely sure he is telling the truth. How can Obama have been born in Hawaii if his paternal grandmother says she witness his birth taking place in the delivery room in Kenya?
     
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