Average Deviation: Summing Positive & Negative Values

In summary, when solving for the average deviation, we usually sum up the absolute values of individual deviations. However, when we simply sum the individual deviations (negative and positive) for a large set of measurements, we get a sum of exactly zero. This is due to the definition of mean and the fact that mean deviation does not take into account the algebraic signs of the deviations. Using the standard deviation (root mean square) gives a more accurate and comparative idea of the spread of the population, especially for distributions that look like a Normal Curve.
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Usually when solving for the average deviation, we have to sum up the ABSOLUTE values of individual deviations. What happens when we simply summed the individual deviations (negative and positive) for a large set of measurements.
 
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dami said:
Usually when solving for the average deviation, we have to sum up the ABSOLUTE values of individual deviations. What happens when we simply summed the individual deviations (negative and positive) for a large set of measurements.
That is how the statistical mean is calculated. The usual way to get the standard deviation is the square root of the average of the square of the deviations from the mean.
 
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dami said:
What happens when we simply summed the individual deviations (negative and positive) for a large set of measurements.
Assuming you mean deviation from the mean, you will get a sum of exactly zero (due to the definition of mean).
 
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I got -0.0005 when I tried calculating it with these set of deviations: .003, .005, -.005, -.009, -.011, .015, .000, -.011, -.009, -.001, .001, .016, -.005, -.020, -.002, .019, .001, .009, .006, .001. With a mean of .760.
 
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It is said that mean deviation does not take into account algebraic signs of deviations. What if we take into account the algebraic signs of the deviations. Will there be any difference. Which will be more accurate and why does the mean deviation use the absolute values of the deviations, why can't we not use the deviations with its algebraic signs.
 
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dami said:
I got -0.0005 when I tried calculating it with these set of deviations: .003, .005, -.005, -.009, -.011, .015, .000, -.011, -.009, -.001, .001, .016, -.005, -.020, -.002, .019, .001, .009, .006, .001. With a mean of .760.
I suspect the figure of 0.760 was rounded to 3 decimal places, and if you used more decimal places you'd get a much smaller average deviation. Rounded to three decimal places, your answer of -0.0005 is zero. Theoretically the average (plus-or-minus) deviation should be exactly zero, but if you calculate to a limited number of decimal places, the answer you get might not be exactly zero.
 
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Is there any reason why it equals Zero
 
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Because that is the (one) definition of the Mean.
Look upon the mean as the centre of gravity of a distribution and also the centre of gravity of a balancing object. If you take moments of all elements of an object about the cg, the sum will be zero.
Using the standard deviation (root mean square) gives you a comparative idea of the spread of the population. For distributions which look like a Normal Curve, the standard distribution gives a very good way of comparing spreads. If you try to analyse a distribution that is very un-normal looking then the sd is not such a good measure.

If you just add up the deviations (magnitudes) without squaring them, you Will get an idea of the spread (clearly) but, numerically, it is not so good and just doesn't give realistic, comparative answers.
 
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dami said:
Is there any reason why it equals Zero
Example with two samples:

[tex]\mu = \frac{x_1 + x_2}{2}[/tex]

[tex]y_1 = x_1 - \mu[/tex]

[tex]y_2 = x_2 - \mu[/tex]

[tex]\frac{y_1 + y_2}{2} = \frac{x_1 + x_2}{2} - \frac{\mu +\mu}{2} = 0[/tex]​

Now, can you generalise that to any number of samples?
 

What is meant by "average deviation"?

Average deviation is a measure of how much the values in a dataset deviate from the mean. It is calculated by finding the absolute value of the difference between each data point and the mean, adding these values together, and dividing by the total number of data points.

What is the purpose of summing positive and negative values in average deviation?

Summing positive and negative values in average deviation allows us to take into account the direction of the deviation. Positive values indicate that the data points are above the mean, while negative values indicate that they are below the mean. By summing these values, we can get a better understanding of the overall deviation from the mean.

How does average deviation differ from standard deviation?

Average deviation and standard deviation are both measures of variability in a dataset, but they are calculated differently. Standard deviation takes into account the squared differences from the mean, while average deviation uses the absolute value of the differences. Standard deviation is also more sensitive to outliers than average deviation.

What does a high average deviation indicate about a dataset?

A high average deviation indicates that the data points in the dataset are spread out from the mean, suggesting a larger amount of variability. This could be due to the presence of outliers or a wider range of values in the dataset.

Can average deviation be negative?

No, average deviation cannot be negative. The absolute value of the differences between the data points and the mean ensures that the resulting value is always positive.

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