# Avg. kinetic energy

1. Jan 22, 2015

### brake4country

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
What is the ratio of the average speed of an atom of neon to another atom of neon at twice the temperature but the same pressure?

2. Relevant equations
KE = 3/2 RT; v1/v2 = sqrt. m2/sqrt. m1

3. The attempt at a solution
I first used KE = 3/2RT and substituted 1 and 2 for T and set them equal to each other. I ended up with a ratio of 1:2. Why is the answer 1:1.4?

2. Jan 22, 2015

### Quantum Defect

Note that you are using equations that are appropriate for root-mean-squared speed. I would take "average" to be "mean", in which case the equations are slightly different. The functional form is the same.

v_mean = SQRT(8*RT/[pi*M]) ==> v2/v1 = ???

3. Jan 22, 2015

### brake4country

Hi, I do not understand what you wrote. I am trying to understand this from a KE=3/2RT and KE=1/2mv^2 point of view. I see that when I set these equal to each other, temp. and velocity are inversely related. T = v^2, thus taking the sqrt. of the temp. I do not know how to use Graham's law for something like this.

4. Jan 23, 2015

### Quantum Defect

You don't need to use Graham's Law.

v_mean = SQRT(8RT/[pi*M])

For the same gas at two different temperatures:

v_2/v_1 = SQRT(8RT_2/(pi*M))/SQRT(8RT_1/(pi*M)) ==> All constants cancel top and bottom ==> v_2/v_1 = SQRT(???)