AZING!Calculating Vacuum Buoyancy: Maximum Weight a Vacuum Cleaner Can Lift

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum weight a vacuum cleaner can lift based on its hose diameter and the pressure differential created by the vacuum. The subject area includes fluid dynamics and pressure calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between pressure, area, and force, questioning the appropriate pressure to use and whether to consider atmospheric pressure or a perfect vacuum. There is also discussion about the implications of the vacuum's effectiveness on lifting capacity.

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Some participants have provided calculations and insights into the pressure and force relationships, while others express confusion about the assumptions regarding pressure values. There is an indication that some productive reasoning has emerged, although not all participants are in agreement on the approach.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the vacuum cleaner creates a near-perfect vacuum, and there is a reference to atmospheric pressure in the context of calculating lifting force. The exact parameters and definitions of pressure in this scenario are still being clarified.

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A very powerful vacuum cleaner has a hose 2.75 cm in diameter. With no nozzle on the hose, what is the weight of the heaviest brick that the cleaner can lift?

So I need to find the pressure and then multiply by the area of the hose... but if P= density*g*h... would I use the density for air? What would the height be?

Am I approaching this the right way?
 
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je55ica7 said:
A very powerful vacuum cleaner has a hose 2.75 cm in diameter. With no nozzle on the hose, what is the weight of the heaviest brick that the cleaner can lift?

So I need to find the pressure and then multiply by the area of the hose... but if P= density*g*h... would I use the density for air? What would the height be?

Am I approaching this the right way?
The 'very powerful' means that it produces practically a perfect vacuum in the hose. So you have to find the total force at the hose opening, assuming that the pressure inside the hose is 0,

One atm = 101325 Pa (N/m^2)

Use F = PA where A = area of hose opening. You don't need to know the density of the air.

AM
 
So I assume the pressure is equal to 1 atm? Or 0? I'm confused... If it was zero then the Force is 0...
 
oh wait, nevermind... i got it! thanks!
 
je55ica7 said:
oh wait, nevermind... i got it! thanks!
I get:

F_{net} = P_{atm}A_{hose} - P_{hose}A_{hose}

F_{net} = 1.01325e5 * 5.94(e-4) N - 0 = 59.6 N

or the weight of a 6 kg. brick. This is a force that would accelerate a 6 kg brick at 9.8 m/sec^2. Imagine a tornado 'hose' the size of a house and you can see why a tornado can send cars sailing through the air.

AM
 

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