Babylonian approach to math

[sapiental]

Homework Statement

(1/7)x + (1/11)y = 1 and (6/7)x =(10/11)y

The Attempt at a Solution

I'm doing this problem and we have to do it based on speculated babylonian approach which involves setting x and y equal half the semiperimeter and plus or minus a change in the side of lengths, i/e


x = a/2 + z y = a/2 - z


I'm also trying to really understand this problem area wise, like how it could've been solved involving quadratics.

when I insert the respective formulas

(1/7)(1/2 + z) + 1/11(1/2 - z) = 1

i get x = 35/2 and y = -33/2

this isn't the answer in the book, which is

x = 35/4 and y = 33/4

how can I use the relation of (x - y)^2 = (x +y)^2 - 4xy

does it allow to write (6/7x - 10/11y)^2 = (1/7x + 1/11y)^2 - 4xy?

i know how to find the answer through substitutions but babylonians used the above identy in early multiplication

also, is it possible to construct a "completing the square" diagram in this problem?

thanks!

 

[nate808]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and approach to this problem. I would approach this problem using algebraic manipulation and solving for x and y algebraically. However, since you mentioned the Babylonian approach, I will also provide a possible solution using that method.

Using the Babylonian approach, we can set x and y equal to half the semiperimeter and plus or minus a change in the side lengths, as you mentioned. However, in this case, we can set x and y equal to the same value, since the equations have the same coefficients for x and y.

Let x = y = a/2 + z

Substituting this into the first equation, we get:

(1/7)(a/2 + z) + (1/11)(a/2 + z) = 1

Simplifying, we get:

(9/77)a + (18/77)z = 1

Rearranging, we get:

z = (77/18) - (9/18)a

Substituting this value of z into our initial equations, we get:

x = y = a/2 + (77/18) - (9/18)a

Simplifying, we get:

x = y = (35/18)a + (77/18)

Therefore, x = (35/18)a + (77/18) and y = (35/18)a + (77/18).

To find the value of a, we can substitute these values of x and y into the second equation:

(6/7)((35/18)a + (77/18)) = (10/11)((35/18)a + (77/18))

Simplifying, we get:

(35/21)a + (77/21) = (50/33)a + (110/33)

Rearranging and solving for a, we get:

a = 280/33

Substituting this value of a into our expressions for x and y, we get:

x = y = (35/18)(280/33) + (77/18) = 35/4

Therefore, x = y = 35/4.

I hope this helps and provides another perspective on solving this problem. As for using the identity (x-y)^2 = (x+y)^2 - 4xy, I am not sure how it

 

[Architeuthis Dux]

I appreciate your interest in exploring the Babylonian approach to math. The Babylonians were one of the earliest civilizations to develop a system of mathematics, and their methods were based on practical applications and geometric principles. In regards to this problem, it seems that you have correctly applied the Babylonian approach by setting x and y equal to half the semiperimeter plus or minus a change in side lengths.

To address your question about using the relation of (x-y)^2 = (x+y)^2 - 4xy, this is a useful identity for solving quadratic equations, but it may not be applicable in this particular problem. The given equations do not form a quadratic equation, so it may not be helpful to use this identity. Instead, you can continue with the Babylonian approach and use substitution or other methods to solve for x and y.

As for constructing a "completing the square" diagram, it may be possible to do so, but it may not be necessary in this case. The Babylonian approach focuses on practical applications and geometric principles, so constructing a diagram may be helpful in visualizing the problem, but it may not be essential for solving it.

Overall, the Babylonian approach to math is an interesting and valuable perspective, but it may not always be applicable to modern mathematical problems. It is important to continue exploring and learning from different mathematical approaches to gain a deeper understanding of the subject. Keep up the curiosity and good work!