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Back to the nature

  1. Nov 3, 2012 #1
    Has this ever happened to you? Did you ever feel the need to distance yourself from modern civilization and go back to jungle, beach, rock, desert, snow, plain etc. places forever?

    So, I was watching a lot of discovery channel, checking out dive fishing videos, reading adventure books. And I was thinking, what if I could just leave the civilization and live in a very natural way. I mean I have grown sick and tired of verious things that goes on around me everyday. Yesterday, I saw Blue Lagoon I and II, and it has put a firm desire in me to live a life in the lap of nature.

    Actually, the way I see it, human life in general has only two purposes - to seek comfort and to seek knowledge. Thankfully, I have enough of both. I do not need anymore. I do not even feel the need of earning money.

    So, I have this feeling of drifting out. Maybe I'll get a mate, maybe not. But seriously, I do not want my kids to grow up in so called "modern world". Some may think I'm out of my mind or I will be doing harm to my children. But I want to give them the joy that I myself so dreadfully lack here.

    NB: My only doubt is given the choice my kids might differ from my view on joy. Thus, I am confused. If I had the answer I'd have left a long ago.
     
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  3. Nov 3, 2012 #2

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    Yeah, I sometimes get the need to distance myself from modern society. But after a while I realize that modern society isn't all bad: we have healthcare, education, easy access to food, etc.
    I don't think I would even be able to survive outside modern civilization :frown:
     
  4. Nov 3, 2012 #3

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    As long as I have access to PF, I wouldn't mind living in a cave. :smile:
     
  5. Nov 3, 2012 #4

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    I could definitely go back to nature as long as I had all of the food, beverages, medicines, and modern medical attention I needed, proper shelter with central air conditioning and heating, comfortable bed and furniture, computer with internet access, movies, tv, books, indoor plumbing with running water, climate appropriate and functional clothing.

    On my "wish list" would be refrigerator/freezer, electric lighting, stove and oven, microwave.
     
  6. Nov 3, 2012 #5
    No one likes the natural state like someone from the civilized state.
     
  7. Nov 3, 2012 #6
    I would rather find myself in a large well-known city than "outdoors"
     
  8. Nov 3, 2012 #7

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    I love the wilderness. Absolutely, utterly love it. The best moments of my life so far have been the 3 weeks I spent on Denali (Mt. McKinley to non-climbers) the 2 weeks spent with my wife in the San Juans, the 3 weeks in the Scottish highlands and Hebrides, 2 weeks in the cirque of the towers in Utah.

    More recently the much tamer outings with my young family in the Greens, Whites, and Adirondaks.

    But after all that time in wilderness, it makes you appreciate a bed. And beer.

    See if you can carry 2 weeks of food on your back and sleep in the rain with no tent. It's worth it to know that you can, but it also gives you insight into why humans progressed in the direction we have.

    They never show gangrene in those movies, do they?
     
  9. Nov 3, 2012 #8

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    I visit the wilderness when I miss it (not too far of a drive from here). Definitely makes you appreciate civilization when you return from a camping trip though.
     
  10. Nov 3, 2012 #9

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    Don't you think this is a bit hypocritical since you are voicing it by using your computer AND putting it somewhere on an internet forum, which is the epitome of "modern civilization"?

    Besides, what exactly is "modern civilization" and what is so wrong about it? I'm sure way back when, the "wheel" was considered as "modern civilization". Some cave mother probably was complaining just like you are now, that this wheel is taking her kids out way too far too fast from home.

    Zz.
     
  11. Nov 3, 2012 #10

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    There's a lot to be said for the modern world and access to hygiene and comfortable living conditions. I would not want to inflict an 'all natural' program on my kids.

    One could visit a community in the Amazon or Papua New Gineau or various other parts of Africa, Asia, Australia or Pacific Islands, or S or N America, and live for a few months or weeks without modern conveniences. Or one could spend two weeks in some remote wilderness to see what back to Nature is really like.

    Or one can find a community with not so modern tastes like the Amish or Bruderhof.
    http://www.bruderhof.com/
     
  12. Nov 3, 2012 #11

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    We don't have to go that far. Just look at those people along the upper Eastern seaboard that are now living without power, heat, water, gasoline, etc. Try telling THEM about how good it could be living without modern civilization.

    Zz.
     
  13. Nov 3, 2012 #12
    Nature is beautiful and wonderful to experience, but humans are terribly suited for living in most parts of the world. You take for granted that you don't sleep with a hunger in your stomach, a chill on your back and the fear of wild predators...

    I love hiking and being in nature, but living in it full time is a very difficult thing. There's a reason most people didn't live past the age of 30 until relatively recently in human history.
     
  14. Nov 3, 2012 #13
    People who live(d) without modern luxuries actually had centuries of knowledge about how to do it behind them. It's very hard to revert if you've been raised in the modern world. A situation where reversion is forced on people overnight, involuntarily, is not going to work, of course. Someone who undertakes it voluntarily stands a chance.
     
  15. Nov 3, 2012 #14

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    Why voluntarily handicap yourself?
     
  16. Nov 4, 2012 #15
    Really? I envy you.

    Btw, since modern life seems to have fulfilled the two purposes of human life for you, I don't see why you'd want to abandon it.
     
  17. Nov 4, 2012 #16
    It may be possible to get away from the modern rat race without getting away from modern technology. I can envision myself living in a nice wood heated cabin with electric power (batteries charged by falling water from a nearby stream), running water, satellite tv and internet, reliable communications (ham radio), and a 4-wheel drive truck to get food and supplies every few months.
     
  18. Nov 4, 2012 #17
    The ability to walk into some wilderness and know how to thrive is not handicapping yourself, it's empowering.
     
  19. Nov 4, 2012 #18
    How old are you? I had a phase like that when I was 19 -20, I wanted to go in the wild and hunt squirrels and molest dear. Now I hope to become a billionaire by 40 and dispose of toxic waste where the endangered species live.
     
  20. Nov 4, 2012 #19

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    And, she would be right.
    Her toddler had a wheel rolling over its foot and screamed in pain. Such accidents never happened in her own childhood.
    Devilish invention, really.
     
  21. Nov 4, 2012 #20
    Yes. Healthcare is something so desirable that probably no one would dare to reject it.

    +1

    Wow Evo! I'd not advice you to go back to nature with your kind of requirements. Just place some LCD monitors (the best of them) showing wilderness on your four walls and find a way to make a huge bank balance without working :P and relax forever (and do PF). Now that's what I call living. haha

    Very philosophical.

    good for you.
     
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