How are Banach and Hilbert spaces applied in quantum mechanics?

In summary, the conversation discusses the usefulness of taking a theoretical math course on Banach and Hilbert spaces for a physics student. The speaker highlights that the relevance of these subjects depends on the individual's interests and career goals. They also mention the importance of mathematical rigor in the course and the potential physical applications of these concepts in quantum mechanics. Ultimately, the speaker suggests that taking the course can provide a strong foundation and understanding of these topics for those pursuing theoretical quantum mechanics.
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As a european bachelor student in physics, i can follow a theoretical math course next year about banach and hilbert spaces. How useful are those subjects for physics?
 
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The answer to your question depends on a lot of factors. First of all, it depends on what you mean with physics. For example, if your interests are in experimental physics, then the course will be completely useless for the rest of your carreer. Second of all, it depends on what you mean with useful.

The subject of Banach and Hilbert spaces are used a lot in quantum mechanics. If you want to study theoretical quantum mechanics, then these subject will most likely pop up. If you want to get a good foundation in these topics, and if you want to see how these mathematics objects work, then taking the course is a good option. If you just want to do physics and if you are ok with taking some things for granted, then I'm sure you will do fine without such a theoretical math class.

Be aware that you are taking a theoretical math class. The focus will be on mathematical rigor and proving (a LOT of) theorems. Do NOT underestimate such a course. Typically, they will not care about physical applications, so you might want to look these up yourself. Remember: just because it seems without applications doesn't mean that this is true. The opposite is true, actually, I claim that most results in the course actually have some kind of application in physics and have some physical significance.

Here are some examples of physical applications of the course (take this with a grain of salt, I am not a physicist).
  • In the beginning of QM, there were two popular formulations which seemed to work. Nobody knew which one was correct. It was eventually discovered that both theories are actually the same thing. This is because [itex]\ell^2[/itex] and [itex]L^2[/itex] are isomorphic Hilbert spaces.
  • A popular device in QM is of course the Bra-ket notation, where you have bra's <a| and kets |a>. But what are these things actually and why does this notation work? This is answered (essentially) by the Riesz representation theorem that classifies the continuous functionals on a Hilbert space.
  • In QM, we interpret [itex]|<a,b>|^2[/itex] as some kind of probability. But why does this work? For example, why do those probabilities sum to 1? This is answered by the Parseval equality.

If you think about working in theoretical QM, then you should absolutely take this course as it will be helpful (but again, it is not easy).
 

What are Banach and Hilbert spaces?

Banach and Hilbert spaces are mathematical concepts used in functional analysis. They are vector spaces, which means they are sets of objects that can be added together and multiplied by numbers. These spaces are equipped with certain mathematical structures that allow for the definition of distances and angles between vectors.

What is the difference between Banach and Hilbert spaces?

The main difference between Banach and Hilbert spaces lies in the type of mathematical structure they possess. Banach spaces are equipped with a norm, which is a mathematical concept that measures the size of a vector. On the other hand, Hilbert spaces have both a norm and an inner product, which is a mathematical operation that measures the angle between two vectors.

How are Banach and Hilbert spaces used in science?

Banach and Hilbert spaces have many applications in different branches of science, such as physics, engineering, and economics. These spaces are used to study and model various phenomena and systems, including wave propagation, signal processing, and quantum mechanics.

What are some important properties of Banach and Hilbert spaces?

Some important properties of Banach and Hilbert spaces include completeness, which means that every Cauchy sequence (a sequence of vectors that gets closer and closer to each other) converges to a point in the space. Banach and Hilbert spaces are also normed and inner product spaces, which means they have well-defined measures of vector size and angle.

What are some examples of Banach and Hilbert spaces?

Some common examples of Banach and Hilbert spaces include Euclidean space, which is the space of all possible vectors in three-dimensional space, and the space of square-integrable functions, which is used in quantum mechanics. Other examples include sequence spaces, function spaces, and operator spaces, all of which have important applications in science and mathematics.

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