Transform Bases for 4-Vectors in Ref. Frames

In summary, the transformation from a reference frame to another imposes a condition that the vector has the same length in any frame, but the basis vectors can still change.
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Hello! Why do we need to impose a change on the basis vector, when going from a reference frame to another. I understand that the components of the vector and the basis change using inverse matrices (the components use a matrix and the vector basis the inverse). But the transformation condition we impose on the components of the 4-vector, already impoose that the vector has the same length in any frame. So why do we need to make sure the vector looks the same in all frames (i.e. why we bother to apply any transformation to the basis, if we are able to keep the length constant anyway)?
 
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Hello! Why do we need to impose a change on the basis vector, when going from a reference frame to another. I understand that the components of the vector and the basis change using inverse matrices (the components use a matrix and the vector basis the inverse). But the transformation condition we impose on the components of the 4-vector, already impoose that the vector has the same length in any frame. So why do we need to make sure the vector looks the same in all frames (i.e. why we bother to apply any transformation to the basis, if we are able to keep the length constant anyway)?

Well, do you understand how it works in the case of two-dimensional plane geometry?

Take a piece of paper, and draw two points on it, and call them A and B. There are many ways to get from A to B. In the picture below, we show two of them:
  • the red path: Go a distance 60 units in direction [itex]\hat{x}[/itex] and then go a distance 25 units in direction [itex]\hat{y}[/itex]
  • the blue path: Go a distance 39 units in direction [itex]\hat{x'}[/itex] and then go a distance 52 units in direction [itex]\hat{y'}[/itex]
So the vector from A to B can be described by the coordinates [itex](60, 25)[/itex] in the coordinate system [itex](x,y)[/itex] or it can be described by the coordinates [itex](39, 52)[/itex] in the coordinate system [itex](x', y')[/itex]. The lengths of the vector is the same in either coordinate system: 65 units. But the basis vectors have changed: from [itex]\hat{x}, \hat{y}[/itex] to [itex]\hat{x'}, \hat{y'}[/itex].

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1. What is a 4-vector in reference frames?

A 4-vector in reference frames is a mathematical representation of a physical quantity or object that has four components, representing three spatial dimensions and time. It is commonly used in special relativity to describe the properties of particles or systems in different frames of reference.

2. What does it mean to "transform bases" for 4-vectors?

To transform bases for 4-vectors means to change the coordinate system or reference frame in which the 4-vector is being described. This involves using mathematical equations and transformations to convert the components of the 4-vector from one reference frame to another.

3. Why is it important to transform bases for 4-vectors in reference frames?

It is important to transform bases for 4-vectors in reference frames because different observers may have different perspectives or measurements of the same physical phenomenon. By transforming the bases, we can ensure that the laws of physics remain consistent and that predictions and measurements can be compared between different reference frames.

4. How do you transform bases for 4-vectors in reference frames?

The transformation of bases for 4-vectors involves using mathematical equations and transformations, such as Lorentz transformations, to convert the components of the 4-vector from one reference frame to another. This process takes into account the relative velocity and position between the two reference frames.

5. Are there any practical applications of transforming bases for 4-vectors?

Yes, there are numerous practical applications of transforming bases for 4-vectors in reference frames. This includes calculations and measurements in special relativity, such as predicting the behavior of particles at high speeds or determining the effects of time dilation and length contraction. It also has applications in fields such as astrophysics, where the relative motion of objects in different reference frames must be taken into account.

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